Day 106 - 23 Mar 95 - Page 25
1 It is becoming increasingly evident (and also acknowledged
2 by the scientific community) that the safety levels set for
3 residues of OPs, as they are called, are not entirely
4 appropriate in that they concern themselves mainly with
5 single dose what is called acute exposure; whereas a
6 different group of symptoms arise from multiple low dose
7 exposure, i.e. chronic exposure, and that these OPs are
8 capable of causing damage at extremely low levels, and that
9 damage is cumulative to the extent that prolonged exposure,
10 whether from single source or multiple sources, can and
11 does lead to a variety of extremely debilitating diseases.
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13 In that sense, the levels set by currently the Veterinary
14 Medicines Directorate and the Pesticides Safety, I think it
15 is, Directorate, are by a wide group of people, including
16 myself, not regarded as an accurate or acceptable
17 reflection of the safety of the product in which they may
18 be found. We tend to think that the tolerance level for
19 these residues should be very, very, very much lower, if
20 not nil.
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22 Q. What is the presence of pesticide residues, of some level
23 of pesticide residues in, say, for example, cattle, UK
24 cattle stock, what do you think, in your experience?
25 A. Well, the official statistics would suggest -----
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27 Q. I do not mean above a certain level. I mean, just
28 some existence of pesticide residues.
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You said in your original statement -- it is
31 not one of the paragraphs which was read in -- "There is no
32 evidence in respect of UK stock that either antibiotic
33 hormone or pesticide residues have accumulated to
34 significant levels", but then you went on "or even
35 measurable levels"?
36 A. That was my view at the time. It is fair to say that
37 I have changed my view quite remarkably since.
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39 Q. Is there evidence?
40 A. Yes, there is.
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42 Q. Where is it because it is a very fundamental change from
43 your previous statement?
44 A. Indeed.
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46 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I have a very grave reservation about
47 this. I have said several times, before Mr. North was
48 called as a witness, that if he was going to depart in any
49 fundamental way from his script then I wanted prior notice
50 so that I could deal with it. I have now noticed really a
51 volte-face 180 degrees. We have had no prior notice of
52 this. It has been a total of, I think, six days since we
53 were last in court and I want to know why it is that I have
54 not been given notice of this.
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56 MS. STEEL: We only found out last night.
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58 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I dare say, but I mean you -----
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60 MS. STEEL: The other thing is that there have been several