Day 102 - 13 Mar 95 - Page 15


     
     1   Q.   Then it says: "At some farms", remembering that he is
     2        supposed to have work there from 1987 to 1993, six years in
     3        all, "up to 500 or 600 dead birds would be found.       200
     4        to 250 dead would not be unusual, rare to be less than 50
     5        dead".  Would you like comment on that paragraph,
     6        Dr. Pattison?
     7        A.  I think he must be referring to some instances in
     8        1989/1990 when we had a severe epidemic of Gumboro disease
     9        which did kill large numbers of broilers at the end of
    10        their lives, and there were some very severe mortalities on
    11        farms which would have been observed by catching teams, so
    12        this could have happened.
    13
    14   Q.   Yes, for a period of how long?
    15        A.  The epidemic lasted for something like a year to 18
    16        months.  Gradually, we got the disease under control and
    17        the mortality has progressively diminished.
    18
    19   Q.   What about the last sentence of that paragraph, "it was
    20        rare to be less than" -----
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think you said previously that it arrived
    23        in the United Kingdom in 1989 and did not get it under
    24        control under 1992?
    25        A.  Yes, under complete control, yes.
    26
    27   MR. RAMPTON:  But is it a declining mortality incidence?
    28        A.  We have gradually over that period we were able to
    29        import vaccines which progressively helped to reduce the
    30        mortality, so it was a progressive reduction over that
    31        period.
    32
    33   Q.   We notice in the penultimate paragraph he is reported as
    34        saying:  "Gumboro disease was a common problem".  Do you
    35        see that?
    36        A.  Yes.
    37
    38   Q.   For how long was it a common problem?
    39        A.  Well, it was a common problem between 1989 and 1992.
    40
    41   Q.   For how long would it be accurate to say that the numbers
    42        of birds which would die in their last period from Gumboro
    43        disease would number as many as 500 or 600?
    44        A.  Well, this occurred on only certain individual farms
    45        during that period.  Some farms were very severely affected
    46        while others were unaffected, so I think specific instances
    47        are being quoted here.
    48
    49   Q.   On average, leaving aside the effect of Gumboro disease for
    50        that period, on average, how many birds would you expect to 
    51        find dead in a shed of 20 or 25,000 at the time of 
    52        catching? 
    53        A.  At the time of catching, at the end of the flock, the
    54        number would be 30, 40 and it could be as many as 50 which
    55        is the figure that is quoted here.
    56   Q.   So, at the most, 0.2 per cent?
    57        A.  That is correct.
    58
    59   Q.   Then he goes on, or is thought to go on:  "Litter in sheds
    60        can be up to a foot deep".  How often does that happen?

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