Day 100 - 09 Mar 95 - Page 05

     
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     2   MR. MORRIS:  I think that would be helpful.  The only concern,
     3        obviously, is if the Plaintiffs can pick and choose the
     4        dates, then they may choose dates that are advantageous to
     5        them.  We are in your hands really.
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     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am only too well aware that this case is to
     8        some extent bedevilled by a lack of trust, the one side of
     9        the other.  But I think there just has to be an element of
    10        trust here.  I mean, part of your purpose, I assume, is
    11        that whatever is disclosed can be shown to Mr. North for
    12        his comment in due course.
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    14   MR. MORRIS:  May I suggest in that case that 19th August which
    15        is the date that he visited in 1994, maybe that date could
    16        be looked at?
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    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is excluded.
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    20   MR. MORRIS:  No, I mean for 1992.  So, maybe if they could check
         the date for the Jackson visit but for 1992.
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    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will say -----
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    25   MR. MORRIS:  Whichever one has the most relevant suppliers on
    26        them, something like that.
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    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will say, if possible, a date in August
    29        1992, preferably when about four of the Milton Keynes raw
    30        beef and four of the Scunthorpe raw beef and one of the
    31        pork, raw pork deliveries, were from one or others of the
    32        abattoirs, of the three abattoirs, known to the Defendants,
    33        Mr. Morris and Ms. Steel.  It should be a date when -- in
    34        the finished product testing, which were the ones you chose
    35        yesterday?  If you look at those on the second page of
    36        list.
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    38   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, it was hamburgers and quarter pounders.
    39        Basically, it was the hamburger products, the beef
    40        products.
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    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  When there are papers for finished product
    43        testing of 12-1 and quarter pounder hamburgers.
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    45   MR. MORRIS:  I think it is 10-1, with respect.
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    47   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  10-1, thank you.  The second choice is a day
    48        which fits the same bill as near as possible at or about
    49        the beginning of this year.
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    51   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I understand that to be a request. 
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    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is a suggestion upon which I shall ask
    54        your comment in a moment, Mr. Rampton.  The other factor
    55        which occurs to me is that if the log which was the source
    56        of the two sheets I have in front of me is available and
    57        can have the suppliers easily marked which, for all I know,
    58        it may do because it may simply be a ledger with columns at
    59        the side, then since that may in the light of what has
    60        happened be the best documentary evidence of what prevailed