Day 098 - 07 Mar 95 - Page 35


     
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     2   MR. MORRIS:  On those, how many of the 60 samples are
     3        environmental tests?
     4        A.  Well, the 60 samples that I am talking about in that
     5        context with the microbiological -- sorry, the meat
     6        samples.  We are in a bit of a transition with the others
     7        at the moment because of the HACCP system, so .....
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     9   Q.   You said before about a minor failure in procedure would be
    10        something like not sterilizing a knife and using it again,
    11        you said that?
    12        A.  Depending on -- yes, depending on other factors.
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    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Depending on?
    15        A.  If the knife was, sort of, visibly clean anyway, sir,
    16        and the chap did not sterilize it, it would be a different
    17        case to if it was filthy and he did not sterilize it.
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    19   MR. MORRIS:  We have not dealt with welfare very much.  We
    20        intend to do that this afternoon.  We have nearly finished.
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    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you think you have finished on hygiene
    23        save for a loose end which might occur to you during the
    24        rest of the day?
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    26   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, we are expecting to finish today.
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    28   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Would it be sensible if we broke off now and
    29        came back at quarter to two or something like that?
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    31   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, it is.
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    33                        (Luncheon Adjournment)
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    35   MR. MORRIS:  Is it true that McDonald's get occasionally other
    36        cuts apart from the flank and forequarter?
    37        A.  Not to my knowledge.
    38
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Better stick to McKeys.
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    41   MR. MORRIS:  Sorry, McKeys.
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is probably the same thing.
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    45   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, McKeys.
    46        A.  Not to my knowledge, no.
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    48   Q.   Because you said you did not know when asked before about
    49        skirt or diaphragm?
    50        A.  Oh, right, sorry, no.  No, I do not know.  But the 
    51        skirt being part of the forequarter ----- 
    52 
    53   Q.   The diaphragm is not?
    54        A.  Yes.
    55
    56   Q.   Yes, it is not?
    57        A.  The skirt is -- sorry, the skirt is, what we call the
    58        skirt is where the diaphragm joins the inside of the
    59        thorax.
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