Day 098 - 07 Mar 95 - Page 30

     
     1        that goes on those labels; the colour of the label; the
     2        colour of each individual colour that makes up a label,
     3        etc.  It is a massive specification.
     4
     5   Q.   There is a market line, if you like, for organic meat are
     6        you aware of that?
     7        A.  Yes, I am aware of it.
     8
     9   Q.   Can you they get that from your company or is that special?
    10        A.  Our existing customers have not requested it.
    11
    12   Q.   Have you looked into that line?
    13
    14   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I really do wonder where we are going
    15        with organic meat.
    16
    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where is this taking us in relation to this
    18        case?
    19
    20   MR. MORRIS:  Organic meat is deliberately ensuring no use of
         pesticides.
    22
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, but I cannot see any place for organic
    24        meat.  It may be a good thing, it may not.  It may have
    25        beneficial ramifications, it may not.  But it is not this
    26        leaflet, is it, or any of the matters which are pleaded in
    27        relation to it?
    28
    29   MR. MORRIS:  It is.  The leaflet, with respect, talks about what
    30        we have just talked about, pesticide residues and
    31        antibiotics and growth promoters.
    32
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  By all means keep on pesticide residues or
    34        ask anything you want to ask about that -----
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:  It is important that there may be -- it may be
    37        Midland Meat Packers cannot provide it -- lines which
    38        ensure that those cannot be present in the raising of
    39        cattle and which case McDonald's make a conscious decision
    40        not to use those.
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, even if that were an appropriate line of
    43        argument, which I do not have to decide at this moment, I
    44        do not think it is a relevant line of cross-examination of
    45        Mr. Chambers who is in the witness box at the moment.  Sit
    46        down for a moment and prepare yourself to continue.
    47
    48   MR. MORRIS (To the witness):  The tying off at the evisceration
    49        stage of the oesophagus?
    50        A.  Yes. 
    51 
    52   Q.   You said it was sometimes rodded and had a rubber band put 
    53        on it?
    54        A.  Yes.
    55
    56   Q.   So that happens sometimes, it does not happen other times?
    57        A.  Yes.
    58
    59   Q.   What criteria do you judge?
    60        A.  Basically, we do this when we are actually slaughtering