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     2   MR. MORRIS:  I think the confusion with the 5,000,000 and
     3        10,000,000 is because McDonald's are saying that their
     4        standards are 5,000,000 and Mr. Walker was saying that they
     5        tested at 10,000,000, and that it is once a month, or
     6        whatever it was, I cannot remember what he said, over
     7        10,000,000.
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     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not worry because you have the lower
    10        figure which, of course, is easier to meet if your version
    11        of the evidence is the one I accept.
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    13        I am not going to embark on any question of discovery in
    14        relation to those because it depends how much is admitted
    15        as to whether you have any further discovery to ask for.
    16        What, if anything, do you want to say about No. 15?
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    18   MR. MORRIS:  No, the reason I put that in was really to get it
    19        down on paper what we are asking for, but I think that is
    20        dealt with.
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    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, very well.  Is there anything further
    23        I must deal with now?
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    25   MR. RAMPTON:  There are other outstanding interlocutory matters
    26        and one thing and another but, my Lord, Mr. Chambers will
    27        be here at 2.00.  I am anxious to get on with him, if
    28        we possibly can.
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    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I think Mr. Morris -- you had certain
    31        matters you wanted to raise on the ruling.  Can you give me
    32        just a thumbnail sketch of those so that both I and
    33        Mr. Rampton can hear?
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    35   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  Do you have a copy of your ruling in front of
    36        you?
    37
    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
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    40   MR. MORRIS:  Some of them, we are awaiting response from the
    41        Plaintiffs.  I will not deal with those.  I am just trying
    42        to see ones are.  Yes, I was a little bit concerned at page
    43        4 about the accident statistics, that the statistics which
    44        they have given us are referring to compensation claims,
    45        not to the compulsory documented RIDDOR accidents in this
    46        country which, obviously, under the law would have to be
    47        all those accidents, although we would claim they are not
    48        all the accidents, but certainly they would have to be a
    49        substantial percentage and, by law, it would have to be all
    50        of them; whereas the claim refer to only those which have 
    51        resulted in claims by the victim which may only be one in 
    52        20 accidents in reality.  Do you understand my concern? 
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    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Question the relevant witness about that and
    55        if you want to come back to it, do.  I am not offering you
    56        any particular hope on it; I am just saying you are
    57        entitled to ask.  You are obviously going to cross-examine
    58        on the schedule you do have.
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    60   MR. MORRIS:  I do not know, you see, if they have any specific

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