Day 092 - 27 Feb 95 - Page 24


     
     1        A.  No, that is wrong.
     2
     3   Q.   That is wrong, is it?
     4        A.  That is correct.  You can pick up a lot of vegetables
     5        that have more pesticides, residues.
     6
     7   Q.   That was herbicides, in particular?
     8        A.  Oh, herbicides.
     9
    10   Q.   Are you aware -----
    11
    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Wait a minute.  Does that make any
    13        difference, that it is herbicides, not just pesticides?
    14        A.  Yes, there is a big difference.
    15
    16   Q.   Sorry?
    17        A.  Yes, there is a difference.
    18
    19   MS. STEEL:  So would you accept it was true for herbicides?
    20        A.  I do not know.  If that is what they concluded, I have
    21        to take it as is.
    22
    23   Q.   Are you aware of research into the cancer risks due to
    24        pesticide contamination carried out by the National
    25        Research Council?
    26        A.  I do not know.  I have read a lot of research on that
    27        issue.  In everything that I have found out, it does not
    28        support that.  I have seen research that is fairly
    29        extensive which proves that pesticides are the No. 1
    30        concerns, if we take specifically for the United States, it
    31        is the No. 1 concern of consumers.
    32
    33        Now, when that was compared with the scientific data, it
    34        was tenth, was ranked tenth, as one of the risk.  The risks
    35        of pesticides is very, very small.  There is a higher risk
    36        of drinking coffee than it is to eat meat that has some
    37        pesticide residues.
    38
    39   Q.   So ---
    40        A.  Just to put it in perspective.
    41
    42   Q.   -- meat was tenth on the list, was it?
    43        A.  No, no, risk -- the risk was tenth in foods.
    44
    45   Q.   Foods in general?
    46        A.  Yes.
    47
    48   Q.   Within foods, what, you say coffee was the first?
    49        A.  No, I was comparing the risk of cancer or the risk of
    50        any type of illness. 
    51 
    52   Q.   I believe that the National Research Council rank tomatoes 
    53        as the greatest risk of cancer from pesticides?
    54        A.  I do not know which one that could be.
    55
    56   Q.   You do not know about that?
    57        A.  No.
    58
    59   Q.   And that they rank beef as the second greatest risk of
    60        cancer from pesticide contamination?

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