Day 092 - 27 Feb 95 - Page 20


     
     1        A.  That was done in 1992 and published in 1993.
     2
     3   Q.   Published by?
     4        A.  I am not sure whether -- I believe it was through the
     5        National Cattlemen's Association, both reports.
     6
     7   Q.   But there are concerns, you say, that these reports were
     8        done because of increasing competition for pork and chicken
     9         ---
    10        A.  Yes.
    11
    12   Q.   -- products?
    13        A.  That is correct.
    14
    15   Q.   Is that because the public is concerned about pesticide
    16        residues and growth hormones, rightly or wrongly, but is it
    17        because they are concerned about that, that they may be
    18        turning away from beef consumption?
    19        A.  No, that is not the concern.  The results of that study
    20        show that the No. 1 concern is fat.
    21
    22   Q.   Is the what?
    23        A.  Fat.
    24
    25   Q.   Fat?
    26        A.  Yes.
    27
    28   Q.   That is the main public concern about beef?
    29        A.  From the study, that is the result that showed the
    30        studies.
    31
    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The picture I have, rightly or wrongly, is
    33        the cattle industry wanted to know how better to compete
    34        with pork and poultry industry?
    35        A.  Right.
    36
    37   Q.   Ways of doing that might be, for instance, to use more
    38        growth promoting hormones, but you have then to look at
    39        what, if any, consequences there might be of that.  Was
    40        that part of the purpose of the report?
    41        A.  Yes, that was a very small part of it.  When
    42        I said -----
    43
    44   Q.   They were quite wide-ranging studies, were they?
    45        A.  Oh, yes, they were very wide.
    46
    47   Q.   But they touched on the subjects which Mr. Morris has
    48        raised?
    49        A.  That is correct.  It was very small regarding the
    50        hormones.  When I said the main concern, they wanted to 
    51        see, to compete.  The best way that -- we found out 
    52        everybody knows the best way to compete is to produce the 
    53        highest quality products at the lowest cost.  When I said
    54        fat, this is the main concern of fat, it was that it cost a
    55        lot of money to produce fat.  It costs time and it cost
    56        feed.  So, for them to be more competitive in reduce the
    57        cost of beef, was to reduce the amount of fat that has not
    58        been properly deposited in the animal.
    59
    60   Q.   Just leave that alone for the moment.  They were obviously

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