Day 078 - 26 Jan 95 - Page 36

     
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     2   Q.   So, it is not unheard of that cattle can be shipped great
     3        distances even when live?
     4        A.  In the context of shipping cattle, breeding cattle,
     5        yes, they are shipped long distances.  Do not try to say
     6        they ship cattle to Barretos because it is a long way from
     7        the sea!
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     9   Q.   No, I do not mean shipping; I mean "transport" cattle.  It
    10        is not unheard to transport cattle a great distance?
    11        A.  You mean by road?  I cannot follow -----
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    13   Q.   By any system?
    14        A.  Well, I mean, yes, but you have got regulations and
    15        rules in Europe which tell you how long cattle can travel.
    16        You have practical situations and reasons by how far cattle
    17        can travel.  But I do not think cattle ever would travel
    18        2,000 kilometres, and I have never known of an example of
    19        cattle travelling 2,000 kilometres by road.  I have never
    20        heard of it, in my experience.
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    22   Q.   What about by rail or by air?
    23        A.  By air -- only breeding cattle.  Breeding cattle will
    24        fly transAtlantic, but we are talking about cattle with an
    25        immense value, sterling value.
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    27   Q.   What about by rail?
    28        A.  The only cattle I have ever known transported by rail
    29        (and it is a long time ago) were Irish cattle coming down
    30        to the London area from Macfarlanes of Birkenhead, shipped
    31        off the north wall on a Wednesday and pitched into London
    32        on a Thursday.
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    34   Q.   So when you came back from -----
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    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just pause there for a moment, Mr. Morris.  I
    37        would like to break off there unless there is a question
    38        you must ask before the adjournment?
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    40   MR. MORRIS:  No.
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    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We will resume at 2 o'clock.
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    44   MR. MORRIS:  Can the witness be asked not to discuss -----
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    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Do not speak to anyone else about this
    47        case or anything to do with it, please, Mr. Walker.
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    49                       (Luncheon Adjournment)
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    51   MR. MORRIS:  Thank you for the extracts.  I am sorry to be 
    52        unappreciative at the time. 
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    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, it is for any future reference.
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    56   MR. MORRIS:  When you were in Brazil when you asked questions
    57        about the source of the Vesty's Barretos beef, what was the
    58        actual question you asked; what were you asking?
    59        A.  I cannot, as you realise, remember the exact questions
    60        but I was just searching to prove and be very clear in my