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     1        you are the people who are tearing down the Brazilian
     2        rainforests and breeding cattle?' to which the reply was:
     3         'I think you are mistaken', whereupon His Royal Highness
     4        said:  'Rubbish' and stormed away".  Is that what Bob Rhea
     5        told you happened over the phone?
     6        A.  I just said, I cannot remember whether he told me over
     7        the phone or personally but that is the gist of what I was
     8        told or I would not have written it.
     9
    10   Q.   You were told by him anyway, Bob Rhea?
    11        A.  Yes.
    12
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It looks as if you had been told on the phone
    14        because you said that when you wrote the letter, at the
    15        time of the letter on 13th May which you wrote to Mr. Rhea,
    16        you did not know that; that is what you told us yesterday.
    17
    18   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I think you said yesterday that you were not
    19        aware of ---
    20        A.  No.
    21
    22   Q.   -- the Brazilian issue or the rainforest issue at that
    23        time?
    24        A.  No.
    25
    26   Q.   Then overleaf you wrote -- this is in a letter to Weddels,
    27        the suppliers of the Brazilian beef?
    28        A.  What is the date of that letter?
    29
    30   Q.   17th May.  I am still looking at 17th May 1983 letter, to
    31        Weddel?
    32        A.  The same letter, yes.
    33
    34   Q.   Which is part of the Vesty's organisation, yes?
    35        A.  Yes.
    36
    37   Q.   Which was going to supply you with beef from their plant?
    38        A.  In Barretos.
    39
    40   Q.   In Barretos in Brazil.  You said:  "Our man in Canada is
         very ethical".  Is that George Cohon?
    42        A.  Yes.
    43
    44   Q.   "And not one who would lie to the President of the World
    45        Wildlife Association, and the whole matter has now got to
    46        the desk of Fred Turner in Oakbrook Head Office in Chicago
    47        who issued a worldwide edict that no McDonald's plant was
    48        to use Brazilian beef".  Fred Turner, is he the top guy, in
    49        fact, in the McDonald's Corporation -- No. 1?
    50        A.  He was at that time, yes. 
    51 
    52   Q.   So if it came from his desk, it is a pretty powerful edict? 
    53        A.  I would say so.
    54
    55   Q.   But you had not seen that edict until that moment?
    56        A.  No.
    57
    58   Q.   To be fair to you, you had not seen it.
    59        A.  No.
    60