Day 078 - 26 Jan 95 - Page 22

     
     1        to documents in the succeeding tabs.
     2        A.  I have got two divider 5s.
     3   Q.   The one in the middle, not the one at the end, for the
     4        moment.
     5
     6   MR. MORRIS:  Are your pages numbered at the bottom by hand?
     7        A.  No.
     8
     9   Q.   If we can go to page 12 which is about halfway through?
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Which divider?
    12
    13   MR. MORRIS:  It is subtab 5, is it not?
    14        A.  My subtab -----
    15
    16   Q.   No, subtab 4, sorry.
    17        A.  My subtab 4 has a document in German.
    18
    19   MR. RAMPTON:  I think, my Lord, he is not in subtab; I think, my
    20        Lord, he is in main tab.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If you turn behind tab 4 to tab 5.  Behind
    23        that you will find another tab 4 sticking out on the
    24        right-hand side.
    25        A.  Yes, sir.
    26
    27   MR. MORRIS:  If you go to page 12 which is a letter from you to
    28        Peter, is it, Peter Bartram?
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is a letter dated 17th May 1983.
    31        A.  Yes.
    32
    33   MR. MORRIS:  It says in the third paragraph that you wrote to
    34        Bob Rhea.  Was he president of McDonald's at that time ---
    35        A.  He was.
    36
    37   Q.   -- in the UK, to get him to use Brazilian beef?
    38        A.  Yes.
    39
    40   Q.   Then you say:  "I have just this morning received a
         telephone call from Bob Rhea and I now know the political
    42        reason for the instruction.  I hasten to add on his
    43        responsibility he has given me permission to use Brazilian
    44        beef".  Then the next sentence that follows, is that what
    45        he told you over the phone, Bob Rhea?
    46        A.  I cannot remember whether he told it me over the
    47        phone.  I can remember being told it.
    48
    49   Q.   It just says:  "I now know the political reason"?
    50        A.  Yes. 
    51 
    52   Q.   Then that day you wrote this letter and it says -- I will 
    53        ask you about this -- "His Royal Highness, the Duke of
    54        Edinburgh, was recently in a World Wildlife function in
    55        Canada.  During the social gathering over cocktails our
    56        McDonald's man in Canada", that is George Cohon, is it not?
    57        A.  Yes, I believe so.
    58
    59   Q.   President of McDonald's in Canada, "... was presented,
    60        whereupon the conversation went something like this:  'So