Day 078 - 26 Jan 95 - Page 18

     
     1   MR. RAMPTON:  Mr. Morris must be more sure of his ground before
     2        he makes assertions of that kind.  I am told by
     3        Mrs. Brinley-Codd that she has never had the document.
     4
     5   MS. STEEL:  That is completely untrue.
     6
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  This is not the moment to decide an argument
     8        like that.
     9
    10   MR. RAMPTON:  No.
    11
    12   MS. STEEL:  It is actually on the second Supplementary List of
    13        documents and it is on that list.  (To the witness):  Have
    14        you seen this document before?
    15        A.  Not to my knowledge, no.
    16
    17   Q.   So you have not seen any report from the Public Health
    18        Laboratory Service?
    19        A.  No.
    20
    Q.   Were you aware that they prepared a report which named
    22        McDonald's as the source of this outbreak of food
    23        poisoning?
    24        A.  Not necessary -- no, but let me just qualify that by
    25        saying I have got a whole technical department and a group
    26        technical manager, and he may have seen it but I have not
    27        seen it which I would find surprising if it had ever come
    28        on to our premises.
    29
    30   Q.   So did you not have any or much involvement in the
    31        investigations into this outbreak of food poisoning?  You
    32        just delegated it to someone, your technical manager?
    33        A.  Well, I was certainly involved in it at the very
    34        beginning.  I certainly remember going to about three
    35        meetings at the Elephant & Castle.  I was involved in
    36        conversations with Dr. Geoffrey Banks of Camden Research.
    37        That is my memory of it.
    38
    39   Q.   Can you just look at page 3 and look at the second
    40        highlighted part on that?  In the light of what is written
         there, would you accept that there were not any burgers
    42        from that batch available to the Public Health Laboratory
    43        Service?
    44        A.  It says here:  "Detailed investigations of the
    45        manufacture of the patty supplied revealed no
    46        deficiencies".  Well, I read that that they could not find
    47        any E.coli in the patties.
    48
    49   Q.   If you read the next sentence which puts it into context?
    50        A.  It says that the causative organism was not cultured 
    51        from any of the batches of beef patties. 
    52 
    53   Q.   No, that was not the next sentence, was it?
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Might I suggest -- Mr. Riley, can you hand
    56        the document back to Ms. Steel?
    57
    58   MS. STEEL:  I can remember what it says.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes -- underline -- but it may be that the