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     1        A.  I had that photograph of Royal Avenue that was -----
     2
     3   Q.   OK.
     4
     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Might I suggest before you go on to any
     6        specific conversations with anyone who might have had
     7        anything to do with McDonald's -- what you have been asking
     8        Mr. McIntyre about is 1994 -- would you like to ask him to
     9        compare that with previous years?
    10
    11   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    12
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I suggest you might go back to -- was it 1989
    14        they came?  I have forgotten the date.
    15
    16   MR. RAMPTON:  May, 1991, my Lord.
    17
    18   MR. MORRIS:  Just before I ask that, can I just ask about other
    19        identifiable environment/index.html">litter?  Has any other source of environment/index.html">litter become
    20        noticeable to you?
    21        A.  Well, we get the Haagen Dazs which is right at the end
    22        of our street, the ice cream shop, we get cartons from that
    23        and napkins from there but nowhere near the same
    24        quantities, of course.
    25
    26   Q.   What about any other source?
    27        A.  Well, we used to get the leaflets, the Scissors
    28        leaflets, and of course you get the ordinary bits of street
    29        environment/index.html">litter, you know, Evening Standard or just blown in stuff.
    30
    31   Q.   Is the McDonald's environment/index.html">litter in your street a significant ---
    32        A.  Oh, yes.
    33
    34   Q.   -- percentage?
    35        A.  I mean, you know, it is hard to estimate but I suppose
    36        if I said, if I had to estimate, I would say 70 per cent
    37        was McDonald's, 10 to 15 per cent Haagen Dazs and the other
    38        15 per cent anything from the leaflets that people stick on
    39        motors cars and get thrown off to parking tickets thrown
    40        away by motorists and so on.
    41
    42   Q.   This picture of what you have seen, how does that compare
    43        to previous years?
    44        A.  Well, when McDonald's began they used to pick the
    45        environment/index.html">litter up.  There were environment/index.html">litter patrols two or three times a
    46        day and, you know, the environment/index.html">litter did not stay very long.  But
    47        in 1992 when they stopped their environment/index.html">litter patrols or trash
    48        patrols, I would say it was much the same, 1992, 1993 and
    49        1994.
    50 
    51   Q.   When you say "environment/index.html">litter patrols", you say two or three times a 
    52        day, how did you notice them? 
    53        A.  They wore McDonald's leaflets -- uniforms and one
    54        recognised them, yes.  They were in uniform.
    55
    56   Q.   If they had not worn a uniform, would you have noticed them
    57        at all?
    58        A.  I know our own street cleaners.  The Council has a
    59        privatised company -- I think it is BFR now -- and they of
    60        course have street cleaners who come down the street

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