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     1        addendum, No. 2.
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     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Perhaps could you take that out?  Show it to
     4        Mr. Rampton first and then I will have a look at it.
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     6   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I am quite happy with that.
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     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Should I read it or not?
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    10   MR. RAMPTON:  By all means, yes.
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    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you.  At some stage, perhaps, I could
    13        be provided with a copy, but I do not need it this
    14        instance.  It may be Mr. Rampton will be able to do without
    15        a copy at the moment, but what I would like you to do in
    16        due course is to take, perhaps, three copies of that for
    17        McDonald's and one for me.
    18
    19   MR. MORRIS:  The bibliography that you have, I believe, is
    20        effectively two and a half pages; is that the handwritten
         bibliography?
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    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
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    25   MR. MORRIS:  I have numbered those actually.
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    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That was handed to me clipped together with
    28        the Swedish publication.
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    30   MR. MORRIS (To the witness):  Mr. Hopkins, you have travelled,
    31        you say, and studied fairly extensively?
    32        A.  Yes, indeed.
    33
    34   Q.   Could you give us some resumé of that?
    35        A.  I spent a lot of time looking at English and Scottish
    36        woodlands.  I have spent a considerable time in the United
    37        States of America, on the West Coast of the United States
    38        of America.  I have been to woods and forests in
    39        Scandinavia and in North East America, New England, Maine,
    40        and places like that.
    41
    42   Q.   What was the purpose of those visits?
    43        A.  The purpose of the visit was to either attend
    44        conferences and look at the forest there or just to look at
    45        the forests and find out about them, to study them, to see
    46        what is happening.
    47
    48   Q.   What kind of conferences?
    49        A.  Conferences on protection of northern temperate forests
    50        and northern boreal forests. 
    51 
    52   Q.   Your background as an architect and lecturer, can you say 
    53        something about that, and how it is relevant to your
    54        concerns?
    55        A.  I think my background as an architect, also as a
    56        furniture designer and as a lecturer, is that, in fact,
    57        I am part of the timber trade.  I specify these materials
    58        regularly; we are talking about material coming out of
    59        boreal and temperate forests.  So, in a way, I understand
    60        some of the commercial side of the problem of the forests.