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     2        The second matter is this, Mr. Morris, as you are the
     3        Defendant cross-examining at the moment:  we have had a lot
     4        of answers along the lines of "someone told me this".  On
     5        the face of it, that is hearsay.  At the end of the day, it
     6        may be that it will not be admissible.  If it is a
     7        statement against McDonald's interests, then it may be.  If
     8        it is produced as the subject, if McDonald's choose to do
     9        this, of a new Civil Evidence Act notice as a statement
    10        made to someone and made subject to the Civil Evidence Act,
    11        then again it may become admissible in evidence as to the
    12        truth of the contents.
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    14        I have not stopped questions and answers about it, because
    15        you wanted to ask the questions, but the answers may or may
    16        not be admissible evidence of the truth of what was said,
    17        at the end of the day.
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    19        You do not need to worry about that, because I am saying
    20        that some of the things which are said may not be
    21        admissible in evidence to help McDonald's using -----
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    23   MR. MORRIS:  I understand that.
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    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am just registering the point now.  The
    26        mere fact that I have not said:  "Well, we cannot have
    27        that, it is hearsay" does not mean to say that it is
    28        evidence at the end of the day.
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    30   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I am completely thrown off my track now.
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    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Sit down and get your place before you start
    33        again.
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    35   MR. MORRIS:  Just to go back to the import policy on using local
    36        products as far as possible.  What about countries that
    37        have a very strong beef industry, beef production, cattle
    38        ranching, countries that have very strong cattle ranching,
    39        an extensive cattle ranching industry, have enough
    40        available beef in that country, would that policy apply to
    41        that country, as well?
    42        A.  Yes, it does.
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    44   Q.   So on what grounds would a country like that import beef?
    45        A.  On grounds -----
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    47   Q.   Say Australia, for example?
    48        A.  Australia?  For example, Australia is one of the
    49        largest world players when it comes to beef.  They have
    50        very cheap raw materials -- or, not cheap, let me clarify 
    51        that -- very inexpensive, very high quality raw materials, 
    52        beef.  There has never been any incentive for us to import 
    53        any beef into Australia, because we have the quality and we
    54        have the cost and our customers want Australian beef.  Our
    55        management has never been challenged or seen the need to
    56        import beef into Australia, so they only use beef from
    57        Australia.
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    59   Q.   But if they wanted to, they could import?
    60        A.  They have the option, if they feel there is a need and

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