Day 068 - 16 Dec 94 - Page 19

     
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     2   Q.   When was that, sorry?
     3        A.  That was Wednesday night.
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     5   Q.   That was about conditions at Sun Valley, was it?
     6        A.  I wanted to know -- I remember now, that was the
     7        electrical stunning.
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     9   Q.   You did not speak to anyone in this country about beef?
    10        A.  Throughout this week?
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    12   Q.   Yes.
    13        A.  No, I have not.
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    15   Q.   These documents that go back to 1954 that Paul Simmons
    16        mentioned, have you seen them, yourself?
    17        A.  Yes.  I have said it before that I have seen them.
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    19   Q.   Do you know if Mr. Cesca is still in South America?
    20        A.  He is probably in the air right now.  He is not in
         Central America.  Yesterday, I think, he was in Hong Kong.
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    23   MR. MORRIS:   I am a bit thrown off my course.  Maybe I will
    24        carry on questioning.
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    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can I make a point, when you are looking back
    27        over this evidence?  First of all, until you complete your
    28        evidence, whatever you have done so far, do not talk to
    29        anyone about any topic which is to do with the evidence you
    30        are giving.  Do you understand?
    31        A.  Yes, I do.
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    33   Q.   Unless you are specifically asked to do so by Mr. Rampton,
    34        Mr. Atkinson or Mrs. Brinley-Codd, because they will only
    35        ask you to make enquiries if it has been cleared that you
    36        should.  Do you understand?
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    38   MR. RAMPTON:  I should say that nothing was said by me or
    39        Mrs. Brinley-Codd or Mr. Atkinson or anyone else about
    40        Japan, but one of the three categories your Lordship
         invited to seek Dr. Gomez Gonzalez's help was documentation
    42        from Costa Rica.
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    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  I am not at the moment making any
    45        criticism, because it seemed to me that some of the
    46        conversations, anyway, were in relation to enquiries which
    47        had to be made; and in so far as conversations may have
    48        gone further, I have no reason to believe that was other
    49        than for purely innocent motives, to find out more about
    50        what actually had happened.  But I am merely underlining, 
    51        from now on, only on topics which Mr. Rampton, 
    52        Mr. Atkinson, Mrs. Brinley-Codd, and I will add Mr. Hill, 
    53        as well (all of whom are qualified lawyers in this country)
    54        ask you to find out about.
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    56   THE WITNESS:  I understand, your Lordship.
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    58   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If Ms. Steel or Mr. Morris say:  "Will you be
    59        kind enough to try and find out about this", again, you can
    60        make an enquiry, but restrict it to those topics.