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     1        that, Mr. Rampton, can you tell me where in the article we
     2        find, or you would suggest that we find, that Zuckerman's
     3        and Gianinno's study found that even by the age of ten only
     4        15 per cent of children knew that commercials intend to
     5        sell products, because, I have to say, when I read that in
     6        your publication it surprised me that by the ten only one
     7        in six or seven do that?
     8        A.  Well, I think we are talking about -----
     9
    10   Q.   But if they found that, bring it to my attention.
    11        A.  I think we are talking about different things here.
    12        The ability to differentiate between an advertisement and a
    13        commercial is not necessarily the same as the ability to
    14        know that a commercial is intended to sell products.
    15
    16   Q.   I appreciate that.  I am purely focusing in on what you
    17        say, "While Zuckerman and Gianinno's study of four to ten
    18        year-olds found that, even by the age of ten, only 15 per
    19        cent of the children knew that commercials intend to sell
    20        products" ----
    21
    22   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, to be fair to the witness, and this is
    23        what I was going to put, one finds that in table 1.
    24
    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you.
    26
    27   MR. RAMPTON:  The last question:  "Frequency of children's
    28        responses to the question:  'What is a commercial'"; last
    29        question was, apparently, "intent to sell, e.g. they show
    30        you things you can buy", and only three of the 10
    31        year-olds, that is to say, 15 per cent, I think, got the
    32        right answer.
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It just shows how you must not substitute
    35        your own experience, because I am totally stunned by that:
    36        only one in six or seven ten year-olds should be able to
    37        appreciate that, when the commercial is on, it is showing
    38        you a thing you can buy.
    39
    40   MR. RAMPTON:  But your Lordship's ordinary experience of life,
    41        which is, I am afraid, 12th/13ths of your Lordship's
    42        obligation, in this case, to use -- shows, if one looks at
    43        table 2, to be entirely right.  This is one of the things
    44        that I was going to suggest that Ms. Dibb had left out of
    45        this paragraph in her article, because if you look at --
    46        these are verbal questions -- responses to the question:
    47        "What is the difference between programmes and
    48        commercials?"; in answer to the question, "Function, what
    49        each does, e.g. in a commercial they show you something",
    50        one gets the answer, "75 per cent of the ten year-olds"; 
    51        and under the cross, against the heading, "Economic sales 
    52        aspects of commercials - commercials try to get you to buy 
    53        something", the figure was 20 per cent and not 15.
    54        A.  If I could add a point to that?
    55
    56   Q.   Please do.
    57        A.  I think what they are saying "in a commercial they show
    58        you something" that this is an understanding that children
    59        think that primarily this is about providing information,
    60        and I refer back to Dr. Brian Young's paper that I know we

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