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     1        and cynical reactions to television commercials, and hold
     2        generally negative attitudes toward advertising."
     3
     4        Pause there, Ms. Dibb, do I take it that if there are two
     5        models to be found amongst people who are interested in
     6        this subject, you would adopt the first rather than the
     7        second model?
     8        A.  No, I am not certain that "models", they may be of use
     9        in the academic environment, but I think the real world
    10        does not divide up quite so easily.  I think we have to go
    11        on a bit from that.  We have just talked about the way in
    12        which children may externalise their hostility and cynical
    13        reactions to television commercials, and may adopt
    14        adult-like negative attitudes.  But we have just seen a
    15        research that demonstrated that does not mean they want the
    16        products any less.  They may express scepticism.
    17
    18        So, I think we have to -- I personally am not quite certain
    19        how helpful these two models are to looking at things
    20        because I think it is far more complicated than either of
    21        these models suggest.
    22
    23   Q.   Maybe I can put it this way.  May we suppose that the first
    24        model is what I might call an obvious but, in fact, wholly
    25        mistaken view of the susceptibility of children to
    26        advertising; that would be important, would it not?
    27        A.  Young children, we have just been through this, clearly
    28        demonstrated they do not have the same ability to
    29        understand advertising as older children.  In that sense
    30        they are going to be far less critical of it.  But we have
    31        also explored the area of what effect, feeling critical
    32        towards something may have.
    33
    34        In fact, we have also I think, I feel, established that
    35        their effects on wanting a product are not related to
    36        that.  I think what we have to separate out here is one
    37        which is a debate which has been of great interest to
    38        academic researchers, which is about what children know,
    39        what they can understand, what they might learn as they get
    40        older.
    41
    42        I was talking about this the other day with Frank Willis of
    43        ITC, and we were agreeing that it is important to separate
    44        out that which is, Mr. Willis felt, largely academic
    45        interest from the effect that advertising has.  The two are
    46        not necessarily related.  I think it would be wrong to try
    47        and confuse the two.  After all, as the ITC were certainly
    48        in the situation of acknowledging that young children do
    49        not have the same critical faculties, but, in a sense, you
    50        can argue for ever and a day at what point children may 
    51        acquire certain --- 
    52 
    53   Q.   Yes, indeed.
    54        A.  -- certain faculties.  But that is not the point.  The
    55        point is that, regardless of what critical faculties you
    56        may have acquired, at what particular age that the
    57        influence of advertising is going to act is going to be an
    58        influence.
    59
    60   Q.   Sorry if I sound a little surprised by what you have just

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