Day 064 - 08 Dec 94 - Page 37

     
     1        has used beef imported from rainforest countries."
     2
     3        So that is not true then, is it?  You have used beef from
     4        rainforests countries in the UK?
     5        A.  Not from a rainforest area.
     6
     7   Q.   No, but from a rainforest country?
     8        A.  From South America, yes.
     9
    10   Q.   From a rainforest country -- Brazil?
    11        A.  Yes, but it is a huge country.  The rainforest is a
    12        small proportion of it.
    13
    14   Q.   Mr. Rampton was not right when he said "never used beef
    15        imported from a rainforest country"?
    16        A.  OK.  I would have preferred "rainforest area".
    17
    18   Q.   That is something which we found out by accident.  That has
    19        dealt with that subject.  I do not know whether that might
    20        be a good time?
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We will resume at 2 o'clock.
    23
    24                         (Luncheon adjournment)
    25                                                     2.00 p.m..
    26
    27   MR. MORRIS:  Just a couple of questions:  Are you aware that
    28        McDonald's are calling a witness about the use of soya feed
    29        in Germany of McDonald's cattle?
    30        A.  No, I am not aware.
    31
    32   Q.   Dr. Hans Schumm(?).  Have you heard of him?
    33        A.  I have not, no.
    34
    35   Q.   You are, presumably, aware of the claims and controversy in
    36        Germany over the sources of the soya feed in Germany for
    37        cattle feed?
    38        A.  To be honest with you, I have not heard much about it.
    39        I have heard little bits of information but nothing
    40        specifically, no.
    41
    42   Q.   If I said the controversy is over the sources of the soya,
    43        whether it is from rainforest countries or not (and I think
    44        McDonald's have claimed from their statement it is from
    45        Argentina and USA, the soya feed that is relevant,
    46        Dr. Hans Schumm), what is McDonald's policy, as you
    47        understand it, or is there a policy on the use of soya
    48        feed?
    49        A.  McDonald's UK?  I cannot speak for Germany as I am not
    50        aware of the situation or the witness you have just 
    51        mentioned.  In the UK we do not have a direct policy on 
    52        soya feed. 
    53
    54   Q.   So if McDonald's cattle, or cattle that are destined for
    55        McDonald's, are consuming some soya amounts, whether it is
    56        in UK or Denmark or Germany, you would not have any kind of
    57        policy on sources of that soya?
    58        A.  Not a policy, no.
    59
    60   Q.   What do you have apart from a policy then?  Do you have any