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     2   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, I have not referred to it specifically yet.
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     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, if you are going to put -- you do not
     5        have to put it at all but if you are going to put something
     6        from the statement, I think you had better get it word
     7        perfect.
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     9   MR. MORRIS:  I am trying to avoid dragging out lots of
    10        documents.
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    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I understand that.  I am just saying,
    13        generally speaking, if you want to put something from the
    14        statement it is best to get it exactly right and the
    15        easiest way of doing that is to look at the statement.
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    17   MR. MORRIS:  Is it true that -- maybe we should get the
    18        statement -----
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    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If it is important, I think you should put
    21        it.
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    23   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I am not sure what bundle.
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    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is yellow XI, tab 5, apparently, and then
    26        we can find the page.
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    28   MR. RAMPTON:  It does not look as if it is XI.  Is it called
    29        Destruction of the Environment?
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    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, it is.
    32        A.  Yes.
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    34   MR. MORRIS:  You have got the statement?  If you go to the Lord
    35        Vesty's letter on the fourth page?
    36        A.  Yes.
    37
    38   Q.   You have the Lord Vesty letter, do you?  Do you want to
    39        have a quick read of that, 6th January 1983?
    40        A.  OK.
    41
    42   Q.   If you note that in that letter it says that they took beef
    43        from within 1,000 kilometres of Barretos yes, which is
    44        where in the first main paragraph at the bottom it says?
    45        A.  "All the areas are well within 1,000 kilometres of
    46        Barretos", yes.
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    48   Q.   Yes, and that the plant was 2,000 kilometres south of the
    49        River Amazon, yes?
    50        A.  Yes. 
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    52   Q.   Would you accept that -- I do not know whether the best 
    53        time to go into this is actually; I have not copies of
    54        them.  Maybe I should photocopy them at lunch-time.  If it
    55        is found that there is an overlap or a very close
    56        relationship between 1,000 kilometres from Barretos and the
    57        edge of the Amazon Forest, would that have been something
    58        that would have concerned you on the possible use of
    59        ex-rainforest land?
    60        A.  Mr. Walker and Lord Vesty are very reputable people.

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