Day 064 - 08 Dec 94 - Page 16
1 A. In the US. We are using US figures there.
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3 Q. Why not set up ovens in all the new stores that you have
4 been opening since whenever it was that the baked one in
5 the US was first introduced?
6 A. I think I have just answered your question.
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8 Q. You say it does not sell any more but have sales slumped?
9 A. No.
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11 Q. Since they have introduced the baked ones?
12 A. No, they have not improved either, so why spend the
13 money?
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15 Q. For concern out of your customers' health?
16 A. I do not think it is a concern.
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18 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I did not hear what you said. You must keep
19 your voice up.
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21 MS. STEEL: Concern for your customers' health?
22 A. We do not see it as a concern.
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24 Q. You do not, reducing the fat content?
25 A. No. Why do we need to?
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27 MS. STEEL: I have finished with the articles, thank you.
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29 MR. MORRIS: Relating to the matters we have just been
30 discussing on EC regulations and procedures and beef
31 consumption, have you seen the statement that was served a
32 few days ago of the veterinary officer who worked at
33 Jarrats?
34 A. No, I have not.
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36 MR. RAMPTON: No, my Lord, we cannot have this. Mr. Oakley has
37 not seen it. I have only just looked at it. Certain
38 enquiries are being made. It would be quite wrong to put
39 an unproved statement from some person to Mr. Oakley in
40 cross-examination.
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42 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I have not looked at it because I was waiting
43 to see what part it took, but why bother even to mention
44 the statement? Why not take whatever allegation you think
45 is -----
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47 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, the difficulty is this: It is a new
48 allegation. In the normal way Mr. Oakley and any other
49 witness who is apt to deal with the question would have had
50 a chance to brief himself on the subject.
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52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. Should I not actually be told what it
53 is?
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55 MR. RAMPTON: It is some allegation by a woman who worked for
56 one month at one of McKey's suppliers -- 15 days -- to the
57 effect that some of the hygiene regulatory procedures were
58 not followed. Whether this witness knows anything about it
59 may be doubted, I do not know. But, with respect, he
60 ought, if he is going to be asked questions about it, to