Day 063 - 07 Dec 94 - Page 29

     
     1        A.  Yes, or sometimes even more, but that has all been
     2        accounted for, for that kind of differences are accounted
     3        for in the summary table that is included in my statement.
     4
     5   Q.   The weight is included?
     6        A.  Well, this would read as 200 grammes of paper of zero
     7        per cent recycled and, for instance, the last one on
     8        page 80 would read as 400 grammes of paper of 70 per cent
     9        recycled.
    10
    11   Q.   When it says "material EPS", what does that mean?
    12        A.  Expanded polystyrene, foam polystyrene.
    13
    14   Q.   So it is not paper at all -- no, sorry, that is the actual
    15        item.  OK.  Obviously, we do not want to spend all day on
    16        this.
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, the point you were particularly
    19        interested in on this was the post-industrial or ---
    20
    MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    22
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  -- post-consumer.  So far as the generality
    24        of the rest is concerned, Mr. Van Erp's evidence is that it
    25        all found its way into his summary.
    26
    27   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    28
    29   MS. STEEL:  This is actually on a slightly different point but
    30        it is just looking at these documents.  On page 73 there is
    31        a salad container which you told us about yesterday were
    32        imported from Canada, and they were used in this country,
    33        were they?
    34        A.  These salad trays -- I think these salad trays were
    35        used in France actually, mainly.
    36
    37   Q.   Just France or was it like a general -----
    38        A.  France and Holland.  We have a got mix of suppliers who
    39        supply salad trays; one is located in the UK and one is
    40        located in Canada and now moved over to the UK as well.
    41
    42   Q.   On page 83 there is more salad packaging.  This is produced
    43        in the UK, except it is said that it is no longer produced?
    44        A.  Yes.
    45
    46   Q.   So there was salad packaging available in Europe but the
    47        company decided to import it from Canada instead?
    48        A.  Yes, that is correct.
    49
    50   Q.   That is right? 
    51        A.  Yes. 
    52 
    53   Q.   Why was that?
    54        A.  I could not tell you.  That would have been a
    55        combination of cost factors.  It may have been service
    56        factors that were actually available for that type of
    57        packaging.  It may have been that type of packaging is not
    58        Lin Pac's main type of packaging.  Therefore, they have
    59        actually -- may have wanted to move away from that because
    60        it was only small, a small -- one of their lesser important