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     1        description.
     2
     3   Q.   The only recycled percentage asked for was in the transport
     4        packaging, corrugated?
     5        A.  Sorry, can you repeat that?  I could not understand.
     6
     7   Q.   It is the middle columns, the case description, that are
     8        relevant to the recycled percentage?
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, that is what Mr. Van Erp said yesterday.
    11
    12   MR. MORRIS:  At this time in 1992, end of 1992, there was a
    13        specification of what percentage?
    14        A.  50 per cent.
    15
    16   Q.   50 per cent?
    17        A.  Minimum.
    18
    19   Q.   Minimum.  I think it seems to be fairly clear what the
    20        table represents.  Is your one numbered?
         A.  Mine is not numbered, no.
    22
    23   Q.   Is it at the bottom?
    24
    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  At the right left-hand side.
    26
    27   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, since those were the originals,
    28        Mrs. Brinley-Codd did not write on them.
    29
    30   THE WITNESS:  Sorry, they are labelled.  They have sticky labels
    31        on them.  Sorry.
    32
    33   MR. MORRIS:  I will just ask you a few questions:  If we go for
    34        an example, say, page 23?
    35        A.  Yes.
    36
    37   Q.   If we talk about recycled percentages, 30 per cent, that is
    38        less than the minimum specification, is it not?
    39        A.  Yes.
    40
    Q.   So how could you have a minimum specification if people are
    42        not adhering to it?
    43        A.  Well, that was exactly the purpose of this exercise, is
    44        to find out how many people do exactly adhere to it and
    45        afterwards try to address it.  In this particular case we
    46        are talking about Polar Cup Finland and they were actually
    47        not in a position to source corrugated with more than
    48        30 per cent recycled since they have very little recycled
    49        paper available in Finland.
    50 
    51   Q.   They are the major supplier of that material to McDonald's? 
    52        A.  Polar Cup Finland is one the Finland group which is a 
    53        group of about five or six -- actually more, but we use
    54        about four or five plants in various areas and you can
    55        see  -----
    56
    57   Q.   If we move on to -----
    58        A.  -- for instance, if you can look to page No. 18, which
    59        is in the same group, but that is the Polar Cup Spain one
    60        where there is recycled material available, it would be 100