Day 063 - 07 Dec 94 - Page 22
1 or can you explain ---
2 A. Yes.
3
4 Q. -- what it is saying?
5 A. It is saying that the difference is the above
6 paragraphs are about the production of wood and the lower
7 paragraph is about containing wood. To my understanding,
8 you have had the paper expert in here who would have
9 explained that. This is actually what it contains, the
10 bottom part, and the upper part is what it produces. So,
11 how it is used.
12
13 Q. I am not trying to be awkward, but I actually do not
14 understand.
15 A. If we say the growth is 5.4 cubic metres, then that
16 means the extra which comes -- when trees grow they produce
17 extra wood, that is what is referred to there, only that
18 extra. The bottom part is what is contained or what is the
19 amount of wood in, is how I understand it.
20
21 Q. But the third paragraph says: "One hectare of average
22 Finnish forest produces raw material for one tonne",
23 I presume that is supposed to be, "of paperboard, 1,000
24 hectares for 1,000 tonnes" of paperboard?
25 A. Yes, that is what it says.
26
27 Q. I do not understand, to be honest.
28 A. So that is based on the growth; whereas the last
29 paragraph is based on what it contains, so if you were to
30 clear it -----
31
32 Q. You mean, the final paragraph is about if you chop the
33 forests down whereas the other paragraph is about if you
34 trimmed the trees?
35 A. Yes.
36
37 Q. Their paperboard is not based on clear cut, so in actual
38 fact they get most of their paper from thinning?
39 A. Yes.
40
41 Q. So, the paragraph related to thinning is the third
42 paragraph, the one about 1,000 hectares for 1,000 tonnes?
43 A. Well, that is how it has being done, as I understand
44 it, which is it is a combination of thinning and clearing
45 in the end and -- do not ask me about forest practices,
46 I am not the expert on that.
47
48 MR. JUSTICE BELL: But a certain amount of it stays in the
49 forests, whether it is clear cutting or thinning?
50 A. Yes.
51
52 Q. It remains on the forest floor after the forester has
53 dragged out or lifted out what he chooses to?
54 A. Yes.
55
56 MS. STEEL: But it does say one hectare produces raw material
57 for one tonne of paperboard, so they are talking about the
58 end product there; they are not talking about one tonne of
59 chickens or whatever, of bits of tree that have been
60 chopped down. They are talking about the end product?