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     1        A.  No, but it was the main -- I think we determined that
     2        to be the main category of the virgin paper during that
     3        year.
     4
     5   Q.   Do you happen to know what percentage of McDonald's paper
     6        packaging or paper supplies -- do you have any policy on
     7        paper sources, any written, clear policy?  Does McDonald's
     8        have any policy saying:  "We will not touch this or that",
     9        apart from the policy on rainforests which relates to
    10        cattle anyway so we are not concerned with that, any policy
    11        on paper sources?
    12        A.  A clear issued policy -- I do not think we have issued
    13        a clear policy on that.
    14
    15   Q.   I do not believe it is mentioned in the EDF report.  I am
    16        not sure.  You cannot remember any policy anyway?
    17        A.  In Europe we have not issued a clear policy statement
    18        that we will not use certain forests.  We have told our
    19        suppliers, and one of the questions that are asked
    20        suppliers in our environmental audits is:  "What do you
    21        know of policy statements of your paper suppliers?"  So we
    22        actually do have information on some of them, such as Enso.
    23
    24   Q.   You do not have any specifications on them?
    25        A.  But we do not have a specification as such, no.
    26
    27   MS. STEEL:  Have you got the letter that you got from
    28        Enso-Gutzeit; it should be just behind your statement?
    29        A.  Yes, I have my statement here.
    30
    31   Q.   CVE 4.
    32
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  As a matter of interest, are all
    34        communications in English in Europe between Perseco and
    35        suppliers or is there no real way one or another?
    36        A.  99 per cent is English.
    37
    38   Q.   I merely ask that because there is one Finn writing to
    39        another, judging by their names there?
    40        A.  Yes, that is true.
    41
    42   Q.   No doubt they speak as fluent English as you do, but one
    43        advantage of having a common language is that if anyone
    44        anywhere in the system needs to look at the correspondence,
    45        memos or whatever, they can understand them?
    46        A.  Which is exactly the reason why it has been chosen to
    47        be English, the language for McDonald's has been determined
    48        as English, but as soon as they do international business,
    49        yes.  Yes, I have that document.
    50 
    51   MS. STEEL:  Right.  I am really just like after clarification 
    52        because I was a bit confused by all the different figures 
    53        given there.  In the third paragraph it says:  "One hectare
    54        of average Finnish forest produces raw material for one
    55        tonne on paperboard, 1000 hectares for 1,000 tonnes".
    56        I understand the next paragraph because that is relating to
    57        how much is produced in 100 years.  But then at the bottom
    58        there is another paragraph about 33 hectares has wood for
    59        1,000 tonnes of paperboard.  I was not sure about whether
    60         -- do you know why there is a difference in those figures

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