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1 MR. MORRIS: If we could just read it to ourselves?
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3 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. What the court held was that the City
4 Authority did not have the power to make the decision.
5 That is how I read it. It is a very short and informal
6 report.
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8 MR. MORRIS: Yes. It says that the "Swedish Environmental
9 Protection Act cannot be stretched to covering dumping
10 solid substances into water, lake or other areas".
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12 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, I have read that "and therefore, cannot
13 be applied to cover this situation".
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15 MR. MORRIS: It does appear, Mr. Van Erp, that the concerns were
16 that a lot of environment/index.html">litter was being disposed of far and wide,
17 but that they ruled the Council cannot stretch their
18 authority to cover that in terms of McDonald's. Is that
19 how it reads to you, as you are familiar with this kind of
20 thing?
21 A. I do not think that would have anything to do with
22 generate more energy, disposing of packaging.
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24 Q. I think we have all read it and people can draw their own
25 conclusions. If we just go to page 718; on 718 -- I cannot
26 read this chart, the actual text of the chart, that we have
27 copied -- the top of the chart says how "no lids on",
28 something, the third the smallest column. Underneath it
29 says: "Austria and Germany have tested serving drinks
30 without lids very successfully". Does it say "no lid on
31 drinks", yes?
32 A. The first one looks like "unwrapped straws" and
33 "unwrapped cutlery" to me, the text under the -----
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35 Q. The reason that Austria and Germany have removed lids on
36 drinks -- have they still removed lids on drinks, Austria
37 and Germany?
38 A. Partially, yes. It depends a little bit on in-store
39 usage. In general, you do not use a lid unless people ask
40 for it, and if kids ask for a drink you generally put a lid
41 on it as well.
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43 Q. But is there some part of the German environmental laws, is
44 it, to ---
45 A. No.
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47 Q. -- because of the material that is used in the lids?
48 A. No.
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50 Q. That is all I have on this document then. One thing that
51 it is helpful while we have this document out, on pages 729
52 and 728: We have got some post-industrial/post-consumer
53 content on page 728. On page 729 we have what you might
54 call at the top of the page an explanation of the
55 difference between post-industrial and/or pre-consumer
56 against post-consumer. If you just read that to yourself,
57 the one on page 729 at the top of the page.
58 A. Yes.
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60 Q. I believe this particular Newsletter, if we go back to 725,
