Day 061 - 05 Dec 94 - Page 24
1 A. I think are you.
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3 Q. I thought paragraph 27 was about ---
4 A. It is not.
5
6 Q. -- European ---
7 A. No, it says ---
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9 Q. -- initiatives?
10 A. -- "various McDonald's companies in Europe arranged for
11 the supply of packaging direct with our suppliers". So,
12 each McDonald's company in Europe had its own purchasing
13 buyers in its Purchasing Department.
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15 Q. So when you say "all the environmental initiatives" you are
16 not talking about Europe, you are just talking about UK?
17 A. No, I am talking about the UK.
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19 Q. I am sorry. The paper bags started with 25 per cent
20 recycled content, from your memory?
21 A. Originally, yes.
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23 Q. Originally. Is that from your memory?
24 A. Yes, it may well be documented. Perseco may have
25 documentation on that, but I think 25 per cent is the
26 correct number.
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28 Q. That is when you arrived at the company, yes, 1978?
29 A. Yes.
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31 Q. Or was that later?
32 A. No, 25 per cent would have been late 70s/early 80s. It
33 went from 25 to 30 to 60 to 80 to 100 and back to 80 and
34 then back to 100 next year.
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36 Q. We have not got there yet.
37 A. But it will.
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39 MR. JUSTICE BELL: He said next year.
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41 MR. MORRIS: OK. If you go on to 28: Wraps and clam shells
42 -- some countries import those wraps and claim shells, do
43 they not ---
44 A. Yes.
45
46 Q. -- from other countries?
47 A. Yes.
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49 Q. I believe it is Eastern Europe, is it, that imports all its
50 wraps; is that correct?
51 A. Yes, they would.
52
53 Q. What is the problem with the use over the last four years
54 in Turkey of HCFCs as blowing agents? Why do they not
55 use -----
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57 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You have given an answer to that question,
58 and it has been the same one that has been given several
59 times in the course of the evidence. If you challenge it,
60 it is related to their difficulties having proper safety
