Day 061 - 05 Dec 94 - Page 20
1 Q. And page 685?
2 A. Yes, I can see the point you are going to make without
3 looking at a better copy.
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5 MR. MORRIS: It is the fourth paragraph?
6 A. It says: " ... paper towels as well as stationery at
7 our Head Office", yes.
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9 MS. STEEL: "McDonald's is already the largest user of recycled
10 paper in the quick-service restaurant industry: we use it
11 for non-food containment such as Happy Meal boxes, napkins
12 and paper towels as well as stationery at our Head Office"?
13 A. Yes.
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15 Q. "Waste stationery paper is also being collected for return
16 to a recycler"?
17 A. Right.
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19 Q. So you were using this for PR purposes?
20 A. McDonald's was. What I said was "not to my knowledge";
21 I do not recall this.
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23 Q. Right, but I think you did assert that there would be no
24 public benefit in making that change?
25 A. I do not feel it is a public benefit.
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27 Q. It is a PR benefit, is it not?
28 A. It is a PR benefit, yes.
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30 Q. This leaflet was produced in June 1990. I think that was
31 just a couple of months after you changed over, was it not,
32 or not very long after?
33 A. It appears so, yes.
34
35 Q. I presume this leaflet would have taken some time to
36 prepare? .
37 A. I do not know.
38
39 Q. Drafting up?
40 A. I was not involved with this department in 1990, and I
41 do not know how long this particular leaflet was in
42 preparation.
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44 Q. This leaflet -- perhaps you can confirm -- was available in
45 all stores, was it not, or made available to all stores?
46 A. I think so, yes.
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48 Q. We have finished with Volume V for the moment.
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50 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, thank you.
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52 MS. STEEL: Mr. Oakley, you said that where packaging was not
53 available in one country, you said that packaging gets
54 supplied from different locations in Europe to all sorts of
55 other areas of Europe?
56 A. Right.
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58 Q. That is right, yes. Where some packaging is not available
59 in one country it would be supplied from another country?
60 A. For packaging there is a number of European sources for