Day 061 - 05 Dec 94 - Page 17
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2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It may be a facsimile note of some kind.
3 A. I do not know what it means. We do not have an MG
4 department, no.
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is an American date.
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8 MR. MORRIS: You have claimed -- sorry, it is an American date?
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10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, because the month comes before the date
11 in the month. That is on the facsimile note, I mean.
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13 MR. MORRIS: Yes. You have claimed that the company is
14 environmentally responsible; is that correct?
15 A. I think we do our best to be.
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17 Q. And that in a number of documents you have talked about the
18 improvements of recycled content?
19 A. Yes.
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21 Q. Over the years?
22 A. Yes.
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24 Q. You have not kept any documents that would prove that
25 before, well, apart from the ones we have seen; is that
26 correct?
27 A. I have given you my explanation that we were not
28 required to keep any documents to prove that, and Paul
29 Edwards himself tends to hoard things and I am not
30 surprised that those three documents were still in his
31 files.
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33 Q. So, having now got yourself into the situation of not
34 having documentary evidence, would you say that it concerns
35 you that your department has been so -- would you say that
36 your department has been irresponsible ---
37 A. No.
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39 Q. -- in making public claims without and keeping documents to
40 back them up?
41 A. No, I do not think they have. They may well have had
42 them. They do not have them today.
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44 MS. STEEL: The assertions that you have made about the use of
45 recycled paper in your evidence, other than those backed up
46 by documents, are all based on what someone else has told
47 you; is that right?
48 A. Some on experience, some on what somebody else has told
49 me.
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51 Q. So which ones are on experience?
52 A. I personally worked with a lot of these packaging
53 suppliers in the early days before Paul Edwards'
54 employment, for example. I was involved directly with the
55 packaging suppliers. I know them all and I have kept close
56 contact with them since. I do visit them from time to
57 time.
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59 Q. So what are you talking about, which ones?
60 A. Which suppliers?