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     1        A.  As Mr. Van Erp's document does.
     2
     3   Q.   So it was not done until 1991, is that what you are
     4        saying?
     5        A.  Well, but then they were not established in Europe
     6        until 1990.  So it was not a priority project for them when
     7        they came in.  When it became so, he carried out the audit
     8        as it shows here.
     9
    10   Q.   Why did you keep these three documents and none of the
    11        other similar documents?
    12        A.  Well, I do not know that we had other similar
    13        documents.
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you actually know -- because you have been
    16        asked that question more than once now and I wonder whether
    17        you know or not -- do you know why it happened that these
    18        three documents remained on the files?
    19        A.  I do not know, my Lord, no.  It may be that (and
    20        I really am guessing) that Paul Edwards actually was
    21        responsible directly for those supplying accounts at that
    22        time, and I know he was responsible, certainly, and
    23        he tends to keep a lot of his documentation for a long
    24        time.  It could also follow that, as he was not responsible
    25        for Smith Anderson or for Benders at that time, that
    26        whoever was did not keep the documents, but he is very much
    27        an old-fashioned buyer and he tends to keep almost
    28        everything that passes his desk.
    29
    30   MR. MORRIS:  Paul Edwards?
    31        A.  Yes.
    32
    33   Q.   But he still cannot remember the recycled content
    34        correctly?
    35
    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is the third time you have made that
    37        point to the witness and it is a comment which you should
    38        be making to me.
    39
    40   MR. MORRIS:  I am sorry.
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is impossible to eliminate comment
    43        entirely from the cross-examination, I appreciate that, but
    44        once is enough.
    45
    46   MR. MORRIS:  OK.  At the top of the document on tab 26 it says
    47        MG or MD Department.  Do you know what that is?
    48        A.  What is the document?
    49
    50   Q.   No. 26.  It is the Karran Products Limited document.  Do 
    51        you know what department that is? 
    52        A.  No, I do not. 
    53
    54   Q.   You do not know?
    55        A.  No.
    56
    57   Q.   Have you an MG or MD department in McDonald's?
    58        A.  I do not think this is McDonald's.  This is on Karran
    59        Products headed notepaper, is it not, or is it head
    60        office?

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