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     1        me.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will not look back at Case View but I
     4        have noted:  "There so many complaints that it was changed
     5        to between 80 and 90 per cent"; is that wrong?
     6
     7   MS. STEEL:  No, that is right.  It is page 2, line 20; you said
     8        that that had remained the position until today?
     9        A.  Right.
    10
    11   Q.   You see under No. 3 "Recycled Materials" around the middle
    12        of that it says:  "Carry out bags are unbleached and made
    13        from 60 to 80 per cent recycled material"?
    14        A.  That is what it says.
    15
    16   Q.   Do you see that?
    17        A.  Yes, I do.
    18
    19   Q.   And this document is dated on page 694 as April this year?
    20        A.  Is it -- yes.
    21
    22   Q.   So would you accept Mr. Edwards appears to have got it
    23        wrong again?
    24        A.  I do not know.  I think you should ask Mr. Van Erp
    25        tomorrow because he has audited this number and has the
    26        correct information.  So, if it is any different, I am sure
    27        he will tell you.
    28
    29   Q.   According to your own document, it appears that Mr. Edwards
    30        has got it wrong, does it not?
    31        A.  I think you can verify that by asking Mr. Van Erp.
    32
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  According to the second sheet, which is why
    34        I asked the date, in these new papers it was 60 or 80 per
    35        cent:  "Recycled material used in 1991.  Carry-out Bag A,
    36        80 per cent, Carry-out Bag B, 60 per cent, Carry-out Bag B,
    37        80 per cent, Carry-out Bag C, 60 per cent, Carry-out Bag C,
    38        80 per cent".
    39
    40   MS. STEEL:  So certainly you are not in a position to confirm
         what Mr. Edwards has said is right, are you?
    42        A.  No, and I have not said that I was going to confirm
    43        it.  Mr. Van Erp made this table that you have in the
    44        documents given to you this morning.  I am sure he can
    45        verify what he says here.
    46
    47   Q.   Have you seen the documents that you were handed this
    48        morning?
    49        A.  No.
    50 
    51   Q.   You have not seen them before? 
    52        A.  I saw them this morning very briefly but I have not 
    53        read them.
    54
    55   Q.   That was the first time?
    56        A.  I was just shown the documents.
    57
    58   Q.   So you were not involved in getting hold of those?
    59        A.  These documents?
    60