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     1        I do happen to think this has been something of an issue.
     2        Mr. Rampton must have been aware of that and he ought to
     3        have known better than to ask a leading question in that
     4        instance.
     5
     6   MR. RAMPTON:  I am not aware, my Lord, that it has been anything
     7        of an issue.  The Defendants would, no doubt, like to think
     8        that the answer Mr. Oakley has given was wrong, but there
     9        has been no evidence tendered, so far as I am aware, to
    10        dispute or put in issue what he says about it.
    11
    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us move on.  I knew that in respect of
    13        some items it was not accepted that a date written on a
    14        document was so, in the sense that it was just admitted and
    15        that the Defendants had made it clear that they would want
    16        some evidence on it.  But there we are.  No doubt, if you
    17        do actually challenge Mr. Oakley on the point as to whether
    18        it was available in restaurants or not, cross-examine him
    19        about it.
    20
    21   MR. RAMPTON:  One notices if one turns over, let us say -- which
    22        one have you got open, have you No. 3?
    23        A.  I have 3, 4 and 5.
    24
    25   Q.   Whichever one you have actually your finger in, if you open
    26        the first page at No. 3, for example, which is October
    27        1984, we see that there is a message signed by Robert
    28        Rhea.  Do you see that?
    29        A.  Yes, I do.
    30
    31   Q.   Mr. Preston has told us he was originally, how can I put
    32        it, he was the creator of McDonald's in this country, was
    33        he not, he with Mr. Preston?
    34        A.  He was a joint venture partner with McDonald's
    35        Corporation and then started the McDonald's UK company.
    36
    37   Q.   When did he retire, can you remember?
    38        A.  I believe it was around 1983.
    39
    40   Q.   You see, the last page but one in my copy, at least -- I am
    41        afraid I cannot give a page number -- tells us as a fact,
    42        if it be a fact, that this was published in October 1984,
    43        it is at the bottom of the right-hand column, do you see
    44        that?
    45        A.  Yes, I do.
    46
    47   Q.   Are you able to tell us, Mr. Oakley (and we will come to
    48        some other documents in a moment), are you able to tell us
    49        what was the reason why these documents were provided in
    50        the restaurants? 
    51        A.  Not specifically, no, because I was not involved with 
    52        the Communications or, as it was then called, the Public 
    53        Relations Department.  I have only been involved with them
    54        since 1992.  So, I could not specifically tell you why
    55        these documents were issued.  I could give you my opinion,
    56        but I do not think you want that, do you?
    57
    58   Q.   No.  I would like you to look at something more up to date
    59        than that so that we can have something factual about it
    60        rather than opinion.  If you turn to tab 7, you see a

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