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     1        A.  Yes, very well.
     2
     3   Q.   Do you know their veterinary officer, Dr. Mark Pattison?
     4        A.  I know of him.  I have not met him personally.
     5
     6   Q.   McKey do not themselves slaughter any pigs or beef cattle,
     7        do they?
     8        A.  No, they do not.
     9
    10   Q.   Have you had any contact with the people that supply them
    11        with beef and pigs?
    12        A.  Yes, I have visited most of the abattoirs.
    13
    14   Q.   Can I, first of all, ask you to read to yourself (because
    15        it is tedious to listen to me reading it out) the document
    16        on the first page, the "McDonald's position" document, page
    17        1, and tell me when you have finished reading it?
    18        A.  Yes.
    19
    20   Q.   You will notice that it says that you will not work, you,
    21        McDonald's, will not work with anybody who does not adhere
    22        to the standards required by law; that insists that its
    23        animals are reared in a clean, safe, hygienic and
    24        comfortable environment and that humane methods of killing
    25        are used; that you will not accept beef originating from
    26        cattle subjected to growth promoters or hormone treatment;
    27        that the meat must come from EC approved abattoirs, and so
    28        on and so forth.  What I was going to ask you was this,
    29        what steps does McDonald's take to ensure that these stated
    30        requirements are complied with by the suppliers?
    31        A.  McDonald's Quality Assurance Department would accompany
    32        the suppliers to the abattoirs and, indeed, to the farms in
    33        some instances to insure that steps are being complied
    34        with.  We also have access to all the veterinary officers'
    35        reports as and when animals are slaughtered through the
    36        abattoirs.
    37
    38   Q.   It has been suggested in this case, I think, that there was
    39        a time when McDonald's, I think in 1984, was supposed to
    40        have entered into a partnership with Sun Valley Poultry to
    41        help them introduce or by which they helped them introduce
    42        new methods of farming.  Are you conscious of that
    43        suggestion?
    44        A.  No, I am not.  We do not have a contract or a
    45        partnership with any supplier that we deal with on
    46        principle.  Sun Valley Poultry, as I said to you earlier,
    47        was a company I personally started.  Sun Valley Poultry had
    48        in place, when I first visited them, all the farming
    49        infrastructure that they currently have today.  What we
    50        added to Sun Valley Poultry was the technological knowledge 
    51        for deboning meat and for preforming McDonald's products 
    52        through processing. 
    53
    54   Q.   What assistance did McDonald's give in that particular
    55        venture?
    56        A.  We accompanied Sun Valley to the United States to look
    57        at companies already producing chicken McNuggetts and
    58        chicken sandwich and through those visits they saw
    59        technology that was needed, the control and specifications
    60        that were needed and the processing equipment that was

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