Day 056 - 28 Nov 94 - Page 20
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2 MR. MORRIS: Yes.
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: So, what it seems to me you ought to be
5 focusing on, first of all, is how much destruction of trees
6 and forests are McDonald's actually responsible for on this
7 point and, secondly, the extent to which that destruction
8 is harmful.
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10 MR. MORRIS: I think that is exactly what this whole witness is
11 about.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: We have taken over an hour on what, at very
14 most, can just be thought to be introductory matters. All
15 I am saying is I will rise now for five minutes. I would
16 encourage you to get to that which really deals with how
17 much destruction McDonald's are responsible for, you would
18 say, and the extent to which that destruction of trees is
19 harmful to the environment. That is what this section
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22 MR. MORRIS: The reason I am asking these questions is to
23 identify the area of responsibility, basically. I know it
24 is going so slowly but it because it is a very large and
25 complex subject. They all are focused on that purpose
26 which you have identified.
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28 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It would be helpful to me (and I think
29 helpful to everyone) if you remember that that is the
30 particular focus at the end of the day that we have to come
31 down to.
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33 MR. MORRIS: Yes.
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35 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I will take a five-minute break and then we
36 will resume.
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38 (Short adjournment)
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40 MR. MORRIS: When you say "mature trees", would you like to give
41 a definition of mature trees?
42 A. Mature trees are those that are ready to be extracted
43 and converted to an economic purpose.
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45 Q. Would you like to define what an "over mature tree" would
46 be?
47 A. A tree that has gone beyond the point where it is
48 growing to its full advantage and which has been retained
49 for some reason beyond its normal maturity.
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51 Q. When you say "its full advantage" you mean economic
52 advantage?
53 A. Well, trees grow slower after a certain period of
54 time. A certain species may reach 100 years and then from
55 then on grow much more slowly and absorb far less carbon
56 dioxide. A tree of 80 years in another species maybe the
57 same.
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59 Q. But you mean economic advantage when you say "advantages"?
60 A. The advantage as measured economically.