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1 MS. STEEL: It shows what Ms. Dibb considers the problems to
2 be. This one she was just mentioning, I would have
3 thought, particularly related to -----
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5 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If that is right, you could just say to her,
6 "Would you like to illustrate, by reference to your
7 recommendations, what you consider the particular problems
8 are at the moment?"
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10 MR. MORRIS: Yes. I think we do not need to go into full
11 details on every single recommendation.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If you put a question like that, I would see
14 immediately what you were getting at; whereas if we go off
15 into a document without any signpost of that kind, I wonder
16 what you are aiming at.
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18 MR. MORRIS (To the witness): So these recommendations are, in
19 some ways, criticisms of the present code, in effect?
20 A. Well, yes. They acknowledge -----
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: They are what you think the Code should have,
23 which it presently lacks?
24 A. Yes.
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26 MR. MORRIS: In general, these recommendations, would you say,
27 are -- I do not want to ask a leading question -- practical
28 and implementable as of tomorrow, if they were adopted?
29 A. There would have to be a period, I think, in which they
30 were introduced but, as I said just now, they were drawn up
31 to be realistic.
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33 Q. So if we just skate through them, I think some of them you
34 have obviously dealt with when you looked at the ITC Code
35 as it stands already, so it may be worth just skating over
36 those ones. But very quickly, then, on page 5, number 3?
37 A. Yes. This deals with placing greater emphasis on the
38 spirit rather than the letter -- the concerns I raised
39 earlier.
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41 Q. And saying "it will be" (underlined) as opposed to, in the
42 first paragraph, it says "are intended to be", at present?
43 A. Yes.
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45 Q. So that would make the ITC more fierce in implementing its
46 guidelines; is that correct?
47 A. More adequate, I would say, in its implementation.
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49 Q. Adequate. Rule 19?
50 A. Yes. These are in the general part of the Code rather
51 than in the Children's part.
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53 Q. Maybe we could skate over that and go on to the Children's
54 section?
55 A. Yes.
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57 MR. MORRIS: On page 5, rule 19, would you just explain why you
58 are linking it to the reports of expert advisory
59 committees?
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