Day 055 - 25 Nov 94 - Page 08


     
     1   Q.   You interpret that as advertisements in general?
     2        A.  Would concern itself, yes.
     3
     4   Q.   Or in total?
     5        A.  Yes.
     6
     7   Q.   So what about the letter and spirit of 11(b)?
     8        A.  This is in relation to concerns about dental health.
     9        I have concerns about the way it is currently worded.  The
    10        emphasis on "near bed-time" is only one occasion on which
    11        it is inadvisable to eat foods containing non-milk
    12        extrinsic sugars.  The recommendations on eating these
    13        kinds of foods are that they should not be eaten frequently
    14        throughout the day, and they should be eaten in limited
    15        quantities.
    16
    17        So, I think that rule does not fully cover nutritional
    18        concerns about sugar.
    19
    20   Q.   In the letter?
    21        A.  In the letter.
    22
    23   Q.   What would you say about the spirit of 11(b)?
    24        A.  I think the spirit of 11(b) is OK, as far as it goes,
    25        yet I am aware that the interpretation of it has been a
    26        subject of controversy in relation to one particular
    27        advertisement, where the child in the advertisement was
    28        wearing pyjamas.  There were complaints about this
    29        advertisement, as the child was wearing pyjamas, that it
    30        was likely to be interpreted that the child was going to be
    31        going to bed.
    32
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is there any other concern there, apart from
    34        dental caries?
    35        A.  In the way that it is currently worded, the concern is
    36        for dental health.
    37
    38   Q.   Yes.  I mean it says "especially sweet, sticky foods"?
    39        A.  The wording is inadequate, in the sense that "sweet
    40        sticky foods" is not a very clear definition.
    41
    42   Q.   No, but you must not encourage children to consume any food
    43        or drink.  So I suppose a mug of hot chocolate would be out
    44        of order?
    45        A.  Yes.  The new proposals are a great improvement on this
    46        particular point.  I do not know whether to refer to that
    47        at the moment, but I wanted to make the point about the
    48        interpretation even of this rule that, in itself, is
    49        inadequate, which is likely to be amended.
    50 
    51        But the interpretation that was placed on a particular 
    52        advertisement that had a child wearing pyjamas, the 
    53        advertisers defended it, saying that, in fact, it was in
    54        the morning, that the child had got up.  The fact that was
    55        accepted, this was accepted by the ITC, I feel, shows that
    56        the ITC were not truly implementing even this rule to the
    57        letter, and certainly not in the spirit which it was
    58        intended.
    59
    60   MR. MORRIS:  Just to go back to the point about food or drink,

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