Day 049 - 09 Nov 94 - Page 29

     
     1        was it not?
     2        A.  Yes.
     3
     4   Q.   You obviously had a hand in its production, did you not --
     5        you, personally?
     6        A.  Yes.
     7
     8   Q.   You said in that film that 50 percent of British meat has
     9        growth promoting hormones in it, did you not?
    10        A.  At that time.
    11
    12   Q.   When was the film made?
    13        A.  It was made about four years ago, five years ago; quite
    14        a while ago.
    15
    16   Q.   You know that that has not been true for some time, do you
    17        not?
    18        A.  I do not know when the law actually changed, but I know
    19        when that was put in, it was correct.
    20
    Q.   Why is the film still being used, or was it still being
    22        used until November of last year?
    23        A.  What do you mean, why was it being used?
    24
    25   Q.   It contains a falsehood, does it not?
    26        A.  If it is something like that, it is like the veal
    27        crates; when the video was made, veal crates were still in
    28        the UK, whereas now we export to Holland.  So things like
    29        that would be explained, simply because a charity like
    30        The Vegetarian Society would not have the money to make a
    31        new video every year.
    32
    33   Q.   Better to go on telling lies than withdraw the video
    34        altogether; is that right?
    35        A.  No, it is not right, because people would explain; if
    36        any of the law had actually changed since the video was
    37        made, they actually made a point of explaining, for a
    38        couple of minutes after the video, where those changes had
    39        been made.
    40
    Q.   How many cases do you know of where people had been killed
    42        by salmonella from Chicken McNuggetts?
    43        A.  From Chicken McNuggetts?
    44
    45   Q.   Yes.  It is mentioned specifically in the film.
    46        A.  It does not actually say that Chicken McNuggetts could
    47        kill people.  It says salmonella does, which is in poultry
    48        products.  It does not name McNuggetts.
    49
    50   Q.   What evidence do you have that any of McDonald's cows live 
    51        their whole life inside? 
    52        A.  Again, the film does not say that McDonald's cows live 
    53        their whole lives inside.  It is talking generally about
    54        cows in Britain.
    55
    56   Q.   Or that their sows spend their whole lives cooped up in
    57        cages?
    58        A.  Again, that is a general -- the film is about the
    59        general conditions of farm animals in Britain.  I do not
    60        know and have not heard anything of McDonald's where they