Day 049 - 09 Nov 94 - Page 17


     
     1        Chicken McNuggett, they do not bother to think that it has
     2        once been a chicken, or part of a chicken?
     3        A.  I suppose what I am saying is that the whole culture of
     4        the advertisements from McDonald's are giving the view
     5        about a product that is false.  I am not saying they are
     6        the only advertisers that do that, but that is not the
     7        point; we are just talking about McDonald's.  They are just
     8        giving the view that these little Chicken McNuggetts are
     9        dancing Nuggetts that sing happy songs; and the use of
    10        ronald mcdonald, et cetera, gives the children a certain
    11        view about McDonald's, a certain perception that makes them
    12        think in a certain way, to just eat McDonald's as something
    13        that is purely and wholly good, without giving them any
    14        real information or facts about what those products are.
    15
    16   MS. STEEL:  You are not saying that that is unusual?
    17        A.  I am not saying it is unusual, no.  That is what I am
    18        saying.  I mean, that is what meat advertisers do.  I am
    19        just talking about McDonald's in this specific instance,
    20        because that is who we are talking about.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The difficulty I have had, I would have
    23        thought, if anything, if they make their Chicken McNuggett
    24        into a friendly little character, it might be more of a
    25        turn off.  Are you actually saying that they positively
    26        think that they are something which are not chicken?
    27        A.  Yes.  Yes, I am saying that.
    28
    29   MS. STEEL:  You are not saying that the children think that they
    30        are dancing little puppets?
    31        A.  I am not saying they think they are puppets.
    32
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What do they think?
    34        A.   They often do not know.  For example, one child who
    35        was about seven said that -- I asked her where the actual
    36        food came from, and she just really did not know.  She
    37        thought it just came out of, you know, a fridge somewhere.
    38        I mean, she just did not have a concept of what it was, at
    39        all.
    40
    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL: But they are described as Chicken McNuggetts
    42        on the menu, and most seven year-olds can read that, can
    43        they not?
    44        A.   I know.  I just do not know.  It is the same with
    45        something that is called lamb, children do not seem to
    46        connect it with a lamb in a field.
    47
    48   Q.   I appreciate that, which is why I asked the question in the
    49        first place, whether McDonald's are doing anything
    50        different to any other food supplier, including mother or 
    51        father putting food in front of them at home? 
    52        A.  No.  I think it is the same.  It is just building up a 
    53        whole perception.
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is what I wondered.
    56
    57   MS. STEEL:  Just for the sake of clarity -- we have brought this
    58        up before and I think it is important -- the leaflet
    59        criticises McDonald's, but it says what is wrong with
    60        McDonald's is also wrong with the other companies.

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