Day 049 - 09 Nov 94 - Page 15


     
     1        A.  It is what I said before, really.  It is just that when
     2        they were asked why they did not want to go vegetarian,
     3        some of them say because they wanted to go into McDonald's
     4        and it meant they would not be able to go to McDonald's, as
     5        a vegetarian, and they did not want to be seen as the odd
     6        one out and for their friends to sort of ostracise them,
     7        really.  They would not say "ostracise"; they would say
     8        "feel the odd one out", yes, or "be laughed at", be made
     9        to feel a bit daft.
    10
    11   Q.   A bit of a weirdo?
    12        A.  Yes, a bit odd.  That view was most common with the
    13        younger ones to about 14.  When they get to 15 or 18, it
    14        does change somewhat and they become much more their own
    15        person.
    16
    17   Q.   So from up to age 14?  Sorry, from where up to age 14?
    18        A.  I was just talking about, most of the people I spoke to
    19        were either eight to 18.  Obviously, it is such a huge age
    20        range, I am saying that things change as they get older.
    21        For example, 6th Form, 16, 17, 18 year-olds, would not say,
    22        "I am bothered about my friends laughing at me", because
    23        by that age they are much more able to argue their
    24        viewpoints and much more individualistic.
    25
    26   Q.   You have may have covered this already.  Going back to the
    27        second page, you said that "primary school children also
    28        frequently talked about McDonald's ads as if they were
    29        information-giving rather than selling".  Can you just say
    30        what you mean by that?
    31        A.  What I mean by it is that, with the younger children
    32        there was not really an awareness that they were being sold
    33        to.  It is not just television advertising.  It is like the
    34        sponsorship that I have already mentioned, really, with the
    35        schools endorsing it, dentists endorsing it.  They cannot
    36        see that when people like that are endorsing Ronald
    37        McDonald or McDonald's, they cannot see that it is just an
    38        advertising gimmick by McDonald's to get them to be loyal
    39        to McDonald's and only go to McDonald's and not other
    40        burger bars.  They do not realise that that is what is
    41        being done to them.
    42
    43   Q.   To familiarise----
    44        A.  The whole reason that McDonald's, of course, use this
    45        massive sponsorship for young children is because they want
    46        them to have brand loyalty to McDonald's and to buy there,
    47        you know, buy more and more.
    48
    49   Q.   When you are talking about the children -- well, primary
    50        school children, I think you said anyway -- you are talking 
    51        about the younger children in those instances? 
    52        A.  Yes. 
    53
    54   Q.   That is something you are concerned about?
    55        A.  It is, because if a child cannot distinguish between
    56        advertising sponsorship and just factual information, then
    57        they are just going to buy the products thinking that it is
    58        something that is wholly good for them; and of course, in
    59        my view, McDonald's products, especially eaten in quantity,
    60        are bad for them.

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