Day 049 - 09 Nov 94 - Page 14


     
     1        has happened on a day where the particular witness's
     2        evidence is not likely to be very long and, in fact, I
     3        would be surprised if we did not have a very short day
     4        today.  It is working now but we are doing no more.  If it
     5        goes for any reason, we will just persist; it is back to
     6        slate and chalk, which is the normal procedure.
     7
     8        (To the witness)  What you last told me was that children
     9        at a very young age could not tell the difference between
    10        being sold to and not being sold to; they just thought they
    11        were receiving information that it was a good product.
    12
    13        Do you want to move on from there, Ms. Steel?
    14
    15   MS. STEEL: I think she was moving on to adults and talking to
    16        adults, or something.
    17
    18        (To the witness)  Do you remember what you were talking
    19        about?
    20        A.  I do, actually.
    21
    22   Q.   Can you carry on then, please?
    23        A.  I was going to say I have also done hundreds of talks
    24        to adults.  You were talking about what is called the
    25        pester power of children, and I was just going to say that
    26        a lot of adults also mention the influence that the
    27        children have over them in getting them to take them to
    28        what they would term a junk food place like McDonald's, and
    29        that they took them there for a treat because the
    30        advertising was so successful in making the children think
    31        that it was a fun place to go to, even if the parent did
    32        not really want to take them there.
    33
    34   Q.   They thought that they would keep the family happy?
    35        A.  Parents often give in to what their children want, to
    36        keep the peace.
    37
    38   Q.   Did they indicate that they were happy about it?
    39        A.  It depended on the parents.  Some really did not really
    40        think about it very much, and some of them were not happy
    41        about it, because they thought that -- what is mentioned
    42        quite a lot is that a lot of parents think their children
    43        eat much too much junk food, and so they moan about the
    44        amount of times.  I mean, with an older child, they would
    45        use their dinner money to go to somewhere like McDonald's
    46        or another burger bar; and they would moan about it,
    47        generally.
    48
    49   Q.   Was that something that children said, as well, that they
    50        went there at school lunch time instead of having school 
    51        dinners? 
    52        A.  The older children did, yes, and do, yes. 
    53
    54   Q.   There was a bit I missed out, actually, which I forgot to
    55        ask about, on the first page.  You mentioned about
    56        children, or teenagers, saying that one of the reasons they
    57        did not want to be vegetarian was because they did not want
    58        to be laughed at for refusing to go to McDonald's.  Did
    59        they explicitly say that or -- well, what did they say
    60        along those lines?

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