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1 MR. JUSTICE BELL: But all these are matters of comments which
2 you can direct to the weight which I should attach, if any,
3 to Mr. Miles's evidence in due course.
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5 MS. STEEL: It is just that Sue Dibb made a statement referring
6 to a book that she had written and that was disclosed, and
7 yet Mr. Rampton seemed to think she should have to provide
8 all the references to back that up.
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10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not know whether Mr. Rampton chose to do
11 it that way; he may have made a positive choice, I do not
12 know. But there were two occasions that I recall in
13 Mr. Miles's statement where he started a sentence
14 "according to research". I cannot remember what he then
15 went on to say, and I have no intention of looking back at
16 Mr. Miles's statement, since it was not incorporated into
17 his evidence-in-chief, unless you choose to refer me to it
18 for some purpose in the future.
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20 But counsel, or you, when you call a witness, are perfectly
21 entitled not to adduce matters which occur in the statement
22 in evidence; it is entirely a matter for your choice. For
23 all I know, when you call Miss Dibb, you might totally
24 ignore the book or booklet which she wrote and just ask her
25 questions in relation to personal experience. If you do
26 require her book and, for instance, she read out a
27 paragraph or a sentence which then had, for example, a
28 little "10" at the end of the sentence, one could see that
29 "10" was such and such a paper, she might go on expressly
30 to rely upon whatever reference "10" was, but she would be
31 implicitly, it might be thought, relying upon reference
32 number "10" for support for that statement; and then the
33 other side are entitled to say, "We would like to see that,
34 since you are relying upon that paper or research, and we
35 would like to see if it actually does support what you
36 say."
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38 MS. STEEL: I am still confused, because it still seems like
39 Mr. Miles repeated some of the things, not all of the
40 things, that were in his statement which, in his statement,
41 mentioned research, but just did not mention the word
42 "research"; and then how is it treated? Is it treated
43 like it is just his personal opinion, or is it treated like
44 it is backed up by reality?
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is treated as just his personal opinion
47 based upon his expertise and experience, save in so far as
48 he is making an ordinary statement of fact, such as any
49 witness may make, that on such and such a day, such and
50 such happened.
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52 But the point is, one has got to keep in mind -- and even
53 lawyers often blur the boundaries -- that which is
54 admissible in evidence; first of all, whether it is
55 something that is admissible in evidence and, secondly,
56 what weight should be attached to it. I did not hear
57 anything yesterday, subject to any more detailed argument
58 you make to me later, which I thought was inadmissible, or
59 I cannot call it to mind now.
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