Day 047 - 07 Nov 94 - Page 23


     
     1        policy are concerned with coronary heart disease in both
     2        the under 65s and the over 65s, HIV and Aids, accidents in
     3        the home, and various other things.
     4
     5        Advertising has very little, a very small part to play in
     6        helping towards those.  It would be quite wrong, I think,
     7        to suggest that advertising is a major factor in any of
     8        that.  Indeed, we have discussed with the government
     9        whether they ought to use advertising to get across some of
    10        their messages and, in brief, the answer we have been given
    11        is "no".
    12
    13        So I do not think that advertising has anything more than a
    14        small part to play in this whole process.
    15
    16   Q.   Would you say that it is fair to say advertising is an
    17        important influence on the food choices that people make?
    18        A.  It is an influence.  It is a relatively small one, but
    19        it certainly is an influence.
    20
    21   Q.   Obviously, companies believe it is an important influence
    22        on food choices, because they spend an enormous amount of
    23        money on advertising?
    24        A.  They spend money -- if I may respond to your question
    25        -- they spend money to persuade consumers to choose their
    26        brand, as opposed to someone else's brand.  It is a very
    27        important part of that process.  It is not a significant
    28        part of the process of changing consumer habits.
    29
    30        If I wished to change consumer habits concerning the way
    31        people drive, advertising has a very small part to play in
    32        that process.  It has a very large part to play in the
    33        process of persuading someone to buy a Ford against a
    34        Vauxhall, but not in terms of changing your social habits.
    35
    36   Q.   If it was found that food habits had changed greatly over
    37        the last 40 years -- obviously, you are not a
    38        nutritionist -- are you aware that that is the case?
    39        A.  That food habits are changing?  I think we are all
    40        aware that they change.
    41
    42   Q.   Would it be fair to say that while individual companies may
    43        advertise a particular product, the collective effect of
    44        advertising as a whole is to have an influence on food
    45        choices; for example, let us say fast food, which is a
    46        growing part of the eating out market, for example,
    47        collectively, those advertisers in that industry are a very
    48        substantial portion of the food advertising; is that
    49        correct?
    50        A.  Yes. 
    51 
    52   Q.   On television.  So that they would, collectively, have a 
    53        response, an influence beyond any particular individual
    54        company; would you say that was all fair comment?
    55        A.  Yes, although I think it is possible to exaggerate
    56        that.  What tends to happen is that consumer habits change
    57        for a whole variety of reasons, and advertising will often
    58        reinforce that change; and if you have three or four
    59        different brands competing in the fast food market, the
    60        fact that they are all offering the particular virtues of

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