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     1        regulations, and things like that.
     2        A.  Well, we have quite frequent contact with a number of
     3        government departments and other agencies which have an
     4        influence on policy making -- the Office of Fair Trading,
     5        the Monopolies and Mergers Commission, people of that kind.
     6
     7        So we are in contact with officials, sometimes with
     8        Ministers or MPs, on subjects which seem to be of
     9        significance.  For example, if I see that a Member of
    10        Parliament has asked a question or made remarks in the
    11        House of Commons on a subject which I consider we know
    12        quite a lot about, I might contact him or her and ask if
    13        they want to discuss it further.
    14
    15        So that is a part of the kind of thing we do.
    16
    17   Q.   Right.  Would it be fair to say that you do not want
    18        tougher regulations than those that are already in place?
    19        A.  No, that is not always quite correct.  There are a
    20        number of areas in which we have proposed -- I, myself,
    21        have proposed or my organisation has proposed -- new rules,
    22        because we felt there was a need for the codes to be
    23        updated in certain respects.
    24
    25        For example, we were very much instrumental in getting a
    26        section on environmental claims added to both the British
    27        Code of Advertising Practice, administered by the ASA, and
    28        also the ITC Code.  In both cases, their response was:  "I
    29        do not think we need that, because there is enough in the
    30        general sections of the code", but I persuaded them that it
    31        would be a good idea to have a section on environmental
    32        claims, which were added five years ago; and that was at
    33        our instigation.
    34
    35        Similarly, I chaired a group in the International Chamber
    36        of Commerce, developing an international set of rules on
    37        environmental claims in advertising; and those have been
    38        adopted in many countries.
    39
    40        So there certainly are occasions in which we feel the world
    41        has moved on a bit and the code needs re-wording or
    42        modifying or having something added or, in some cases,
    43        having something dropped; and that process is a continuous
    44        process, and I or anyone else will be in a position to
    45        suggest such changes.
    46
    47   Q.   The input that you mentioned that you had in persuading the
    48        ITC to bring in codes on environmental claims, was that
    49        something to do -- well, is not it right that the
    50        government was thinking about bringing in statutory 
    51        regulations on that area? 
    52        A.  No.  I do not think they were at that time.  They did 
    53        later.  But, at that time, I am not aware that there was
    54        any discussion on that subject in government circles.
    55        There have, however, begun to be complaints both to the ASA
    56        and the ITC.  We picked up those complaints.  We discussed
    57        them with a number of our member companies, and we said,
    58        "There is a subject here which needs progressing as fast
    59        as possible.  We will advise both the ASA and the ITC that
    60        we need a section on the code for this, because there is

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