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1 giving you the benefit of thinking it was by intention --
2 you followed exactly the correct procedure, as it happened.
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4 MR. MORRIS: He indicated that we were entitled to put the
5 document to the witness. So I do not understand what he is
6 saying. I think he is actually making some point. He is
7 trying to say that the way we approach the evidence is
8 different, from me and Helen. If that is going to be a
9 constant theme, I welcome him to carry on doing it. But he
10 will not get anywhere.
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12 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No. That was my concern, Mr. Morris, that
13 you may think that you have something in your possession
14 which is evidence, when it is not, and, moreover, that
15 there is some obligation on your opponent to check it, when
16 there is not.
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18 MR. MORRIS: No. I was not implying that. That was for the
19 benefit of the information of the court.
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21 MR. JUSTICE BELL: As long as you are clear in your mind about
22 the position, then I need not be anxious about it. But I
23 was.
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25 MR. MORRIS: (To the witness) While we are on the subject of
26 Al Golin, what is his position now?
27 A. I think he is actually retired, but he may have some
28 role still in the agency. The agency, the public relations
29 agency, was bought by another company, I believe; and he is
30 still somewhat active in the agency, but somewhat
31 semi-retired.
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33 Q. He used to attend McDonald's management meetings, did he
34 not?
35 A. I have been at a few meetings, if I remember, way, way
36 back at beginning of the 70s, where he may have been at
37 some management meetings. But he is not a part of the
38 management team; he is an outside consultant.
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40 MR. MORRIS: It says here -- is this true -- "'We are not just
41 your average PR firm,' he would admit. Indeed, Al Golin
42 sits on Hamburger Central's top steering committee." This
43 is in the 70s.
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45 MR. JUSTICE BELL: When you are looking down at the book, do
46 your best not to speak too fast, and make it loud and
47 clear, otherwise what you say may be missed.
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49 MR. MORRIS: ".....Al Golin sits on Hamburger Central's top
50 steering committee; he accompanies President Turner to all
51 important security analyst meetings; he was one of the
52 chief forces behind the founding of Hamburger University.
53 He also appears as the chief liaison with Wall Street and
54 is the invisible hand that bids the hamburger to sit up,
55 speak and be noticed."
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57 Apart from the last phrase----
58 A. I would not characterise him in any of those ways.
59 I never knew that he sat on any kind of executive steering
60 committee. I know his company was responsible for some of
