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1 witnesses and if we have not got copies to keep until this
2 is over then we are not going to be able to do that.
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: How easy is it to make copies? Has someone
5 got a machine where you can just play them through?
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7 MR. RAMPTON: I do not know. I will find out. If it is
8 difficult and expensive I may be resistant to that idea,
9 because it is the Defendants' obligation, if they want
10 copies of any disclosed document, to pay for it.
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12 MS. STEEL: That is actually incorrect, because the Plaintiffs
13 asked for an order that we were not allowed to keep the
14 documents, and they specifically said they would pay for
15 all discovery as a result of making that request.
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17 MR. RAMPTON: I am told they have them anyway.
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19 MS. STEEL: We have two videos, one UK, one US; both children;
20 more than half of the ones that were shown this morning we
21 have not seen.
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23 MR. RAMPTON: Ms. Steel, I think, ought to go and look at what
24 she has and she will find probably that she has all the
25 remaining material.
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27 MS. STEEL: I think Mr. Rampton is wrong.
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29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: At one o'clock I would like you to speak to
30 Mrs. Brinley-Codd or Mr. Hill to try and identify exactly
31 what you do have which is in Mr. Hill's possession and
32 what, if anything, you do not. You should borrow the tapes
33 which he has got over the weekend, unless there is any
34 objection to that. If there is any problem on Monday
35 morning we can talk about it then further.
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37 MR. RAMPTON: I cannot lend the American tapes over the weekend,
38 my Lord.
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40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: When do we actually come to Mr. Green?
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42 MR. RAMPTON: Probably on Tuesday. Mr. Green is arriving in
43 this country on Saturday night or early Sunday morning. We
44 require the tapes.
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46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: How long do they take altogether?
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48 MR. RAMPTON: An hour. My Lord -----
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50 MS. STEEL: Can I say, on this -----
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52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Pause a moment and let Mr. Rampton finish.
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54 MR. RAMPTON: The much better suggestion is your Lordship's one,
55 that Ms. Steel sorts out with Mr. Hill or Mrs. Brinley-Codd
56 what she actually has. If it appears that she is short of
57 anything we might use in court, then we will try and
58 arrange it that she gets it before then. That is all I can
59 say.
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