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     1        relationship between dietary fats and heart disease and
     2        diabetes.  The evidence of cancer at that time was not
     3        actually sufficiently strong for a great deal to be said
     4        about it.  I mean, the evidence in terms of the
     5        progression of our knowledge in terms of cardiovascular
     6        disease advanced very much faster than it did in terms of
     7        relationships with cancer, which was somewhat of a late
     8        starter.
     9
    10   Q.   Then in April/May 1993, last year, is it right that you
    11        acted as a WHO consultant to provide advice to the
    12        Indonesian Government on nutrition related disease?
    13        A.  That is correct.
    14
    15   Q.   Could you tell us a little about what that involved?
    16        A.  Yes.  The primary concern that the Indonesian
    17        Government has is that they have a 25 year plan, your
    18        Lordship, which is quite remarkable in its conception with
    19        each stage to try to eliminate some of the indigenous
    20        diseases.  Their primary concern at the moment -- the
    21        beginning of the plan was the question of protein calorie
    22        malnutrition, nutritional related blindness, mental
    23        retardation, iron deficiency disease and anemia in
    24        pregnancy.  In the first five years they addressed the
    25        issue of protein calorie malnutrition, and that is now not
    26        a problem.  They have also addressed the issue of
    27        blindness.  That is not a problem.  They are left,
    28        however, with serious problems of mental retardation in
    29        their children and anemia in pregnancy.
    30
    31        What is disturbing them is the rise of a new wave of
    32        diseases in Jakarta, and particular, in amongst the more
    33        affluent members of the population as a country with
    34        increasing new wealth, is the increase in diabetes and
    35        heart disease, but only amongst the affluent members of
    36        the community.
    37
    38   Q.   Have you copies of both of your statements?
    39        A.  I think I have.
    40
    41   MR. MORRIS:  We have a copy for the stenographers, if that
    42        would help?  There are some technical terms in the
    43        statement.  I took the references out.
    44        A.  Yes, I have them here.
    45
    46   MS. STEEL:  There is a statement dated 27th July 1993, and then
    47        there is a statement you made last week?
    48        A.  Yes.  You asked for amplification.
    49
    50   Q.   Yes.  Are you happy for those statements to be entered as 
    51        evidence to the court in themselves? 
    52        A.  Yes, indeed.  I think we discovered on re-reading them 
    53        that there were one or two minor typographical errors
    54        which I think we have corrected mostly.
    55
    56   Q.   Can we take them as read?
    57
    58   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, certainly you can.  I will make a note
    59        to that effect. If there is any error which is more than
    60        an obvious typographical one (which I would obviously pick

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