Day 031 - 05 Oct 94 - Page 02

     
     1                                           October 5th, 1994.
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     3   MS. STEEL:   Before we start if we could hand up some of the
     4        references of Professor Crawford?
     5
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
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     8   MS. STEEL:  There is a list at the front; the ones that are
     9        ticked are the ones in that bundle.
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where do you want me to put those?
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    13   MS. STEEL:   Maybe behind his statement; I am not really sure.
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is where I was thinking.  I think that
    16        immediately means we will have to readjust the bundles.  I
    17        will keep them separate for the time being and then if, at
    18        the end of the day, someone wants to take my bundles 1 and
    19        1B as it now is -----
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    21   MS. STEEL:   There are some still missing.  There are some that
    22        we served last week, or whenever it was.  There are some
    23        that are in Dr. Arnott's references.  So there are four
    24        papers in there.  There are a few we have not yet been
    25        able to get hold of, but we will make sure we can get hold
    26        of them before Professor Crawford comes back for
    27        cross-examination.
    28
    29   MR. RAMPTON:  There are five papers I have asked for by letter
    30        early yesterday which we have not had.  I do not mind
    31        that.  It means that in some senses I shall be unable to
    32        make a tremendous amount of sense, perhaps, of some
    33        aspects of Professor Crawford's evidence today.  That does
    34        not matter.  But what I do not want to happen (which is
    35        apt to happen) is that I get given these missing five
    36        references half an hour before Professor Crawford comes
    37        back to be cross-examined.  I must, with your Lordship's
    38        approval, have these references in good time -- not just
    39        for my own benefit, but for the benefit of my expert
    40        witnesses.
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I suggest that we have Professor Crawford's
    43        evidence-in-chief, that there be no question of even any
    44        preliminary cross-examination then, but that before
    45        Professor Crawford goes away we investigate the question
    46        of the references of which we do not yet have copies and
    47        how to obtain those as soon as possible.
    48
    49   MS. STEEL:   I am not sure what all the five are.  I have two
    50        further things here of which we have not had copies. 
    51        There is a Scottish report, which I think we can copy 
    52        fairly easy. 
    53
    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We have bits of that already, have we not?
    55
    56   MS. STEEL:   Yes, that is right, but I think one of the ones
    57        Mr. Rampton wanted was the whole copy of it.  Then there
    58        is this Unsaturated Fatty Acids, British Nutrition
    59        Foundation book, which obviously is very thick, and
    60        Professor Crawford is prepared to loan this to the court,