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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  When you did your tables that are in your
     2        statement, the ones with McDonald's meals in.
              A.  Yes.
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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think that is it on sodium, Mr. Morris, is
     4        it not?
 
     5   MS. STEEL:   On page 6 of your statement ----?
              A.  Sorry, which volume?
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         Q.   The first one; it is yellow.
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         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yellow five. Tab 5.
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         MS. STEEL:   Internal page 6.  It may be page 29.
     9        A.  My 29, is it?
 
    10   Q.   I do not know.
 
    MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What is the internal page?
 
    12   MS. STEEL:   The internal page is page 6.
              A.  Yes, OK, I have it.
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         Q.   You are saying about national committees being asked to
    14        prepare recommendations which can be used as a basis for
              giving advice to the general public.
    15        A.  Whereabouts on the page?
 
    16   Q.   The end of the first paragraph.
              A.  Yes.
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         Q.   I wanted to ask about various bodies and how they fitted
    18        into that plan.  For example, NACNE; are they something
              that would come under this?
    19        A.  Well, NACNE was the National Advisory Committee on
              Nutrition Education, so its primary brief, which I think
    20        was given by Keith Joseph when he was the Minister of
              Health, asked this committee to advise him on what steps
         might be taken to improve the nutrition education in this
              country.
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              So what they actually did, when they started to consider
    23        the brief, was to realise that they did not actually have
              any basis on which to do that, because up to that time
    24        there had never been any attempt made to put forward these
              recommendations in quantitative terms.  It was just
    25        vague:  Reduce fat, reduce saturated fat, whatever.  So
              really on their own they took the initiative using various 
    26        other scientific reports which had been produced prior to 
              that to come up with some recommendations which put 
    27        forward the kind of changes that would be advisable for
              the British diet, and to put those in quantitative terms.
    28        That committee was not specifically given a brief to
              provide these recommendations.  That was one which they
    29        took upon themselves in order to fulfil the actual brief
              they had been given on nutrition education.
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              Eventually that report was published in 1983, and because