Day 019 - 27 Jul 94 - Page 18
1 for instance, when they are chicks, they only weigh 4
ounces each or less, whatever they weigh, 45 grams each.
2 Then there is a lot of space.
3 Q. There is still no access to outside?
A. They do not have access to outdoors, no.
4
Q. For the last few weeks of their lives there is not much
5 room to move around?
A. I have difficulty in answering that question, I am
6 afraid. They are not restrained. They are not closely
confined individually.
7
Q. No, but there is a lot of them in there; they are packed
8 in tight?
A. It is, yes, it is a stocking density which is
9 moderately high.
10 Q. Right.
11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can I just ask a question? You asked about
time. If they are 36.7 at Sun Valley and the standard is
12 34, can you give me some idea of how many of their last
days they are likely to be above the 34?
13 A. It might be for two or three, it might be. It might
be for two days, that sort of order.
14
MS. STEEL: But the 34 kilograms per metre square is the
15 minimum, is it not? It is not what is considered nice and
roomy for the birds?
16 A. It is a recommended minimum.
17 Q. Those minimums are set?
A. Well, recommended maximum in actual fact; you should
18 not go above 34 kilos.
19 Q. Yes. Shall we just get a rough idea of how much space you
get if the birds are in at 36.7 kilograms per metre
20 square? So if we take -- you have given the average
weight of males at 2.1 kilograms, the females at 1.8
21 kilograms?
A. Say that again.
22
Q. It might help you if you turn to page 4 of your statement?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. There are more males than there are females, so if we take
an average of 2 kilograms per bird?
25 A. Yes.
26 Q. That means there are just over 18 birds per square metre?
A. At 3.67 you are calculating or at 3.4?
27
Q. Yes.
28 A. At 3.67.
29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: 36.7?
A. 36.7, I beg your pardon. I will accept your sums.
30
Q. That is what it works out at.
