Day 016 - 22 Jul 94 - Page 30

     
     1        demonstrates, as I say, it is perfectly reasonable and
              feasible to visit McDonald's once a week and still have a
     2        total diet for the week which meets the dietary
              recommendations.
     3
         Q.   It is possible to construct all sorts of things and you
     4        are trying to, are you not, claim that McDonald's is
              existing in the real world, yes?
     5        A.  Yes.
 
     6   Q.   And you are satisfying demand, yes?
              A.  Certainly.
     7
         Q.   Well, McDonald's is?
     8        A.  There is a demand for the products that McDonald's
              produce and sell, yes.
     9
         Q.   And there are chronic degenerative diseases such as heart
    10        disease and cancer which are endemic in our society based
              on diet; is that correct?
         A.  No, I would not go along with you on that.  What
              I would say is that the death rate from heart disease in
    12        this country is very high.
 
    13   Q.   But in your statement, does it not say on page 24, the
              first page of your statement?
    14        A.  Can I just refer to that, please?
 
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, it is in tab 5.
              A.  What page number?
    16
         MR. MORRIS:  It is 24.
    17
         MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Second paragraph.
    18
         MR. MORRIS:  The second sentence:  "While it is now generally
    19        accepted that diet does play an important role in the
              development of the so-called degenerative diseases, which
    20        include coronary heart disease and some cancers, the
              precise role of the different components in the diet are
         very difficult to elucidate".  Then there are if's, but's
              and maybe's, specifications, whatever.  What you are
    22        saying there is that a fact that diet plays an important
              role in these degenerative diseases such as coronary heart
    23        disease and some cancers?
              A.  Yes.
    24
         Q.   Therefore, if McDonald's existed in the real world, does
    25        it not have to recognise that the diet in our society --
              that these people who die from cancer -- hundreds of 
    26        thousands who die from cancer and heart disease based upon 
              diet are eating a poor diet, are they not? 
    27        A.  No.
 
    28   Q.   I am not talking about the people in the chart -- would
              you say that their diet is, as a nutritionist, poor
    29        quality, is unhealthy for them?
 
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us distinguish them.  If you had
              hypocholesteremia it would not do you much good to eat one